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    Default Re: Arrested by the Philadelphia Police for Open Carry

    Quote Originally Posted by ViperGTS19801 View Post
    When is the Delia's thing?
    This Friday, the 22nd
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    Default Re: Arrested by the Philadelphia Police for Open Carry

    Quote Originally Posted by son of the revolution View Post
    This Friday, the 22nd
    I mean WHEN, as in what time of the day.

    God damnit.
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    Default Re: Arrested by the Philadelphia Police for Open Carry

    Afterwards would be perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperGTS19801 View Post
    I mean WHEN, as in what time of the day.

    God damnit.
    Traditionally, they have been showing up a little past 4pm and staying till about 5:30 or so. Its harder to tell for something of the size I expect them to pull this Friday though. I'll try to get ahold of Lucinda or Jeff tommorrow and ask them what time they started showing up last Good Friday at Shooter Shop. As for me, I plan on being there by sometime between 1 or 2 pm at the latest. My daughter is off from school for Easter Break at the end of the week so........ Its not like I need an excuse to jaw bone at the local shootin establishment before the festivities start. Besides, there was talk of us setting up food and tasty beverages and possibly even some "props" for our side, that stuff takes time.
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    Default Re: Arrested by the Philadelphia Police for Open Carry

    It wouldn't be the first time the PPD has had an encounter with a state rep:

    Rep. Jewell Williams sues cops, city over '09 incident

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    Default Re: Arrested by the Philadelphia Police for Open Carry

    Quote Originally Posted by son of the revolution View Post
    I hope that your proposing this for AFTER the big protest/counter rally at Delia's and NOT actually AT Delia's. Cause if so, I can tell everyone unequivocally that OCing at the Heeding God's Call thing is NOT wanted ! Thats not what the gathering from our side is doing there, there is almost certain to be a media presence, the numerous Civil Affairs Officers that are always there are near universally on our side, including over looking minor things the religious nuts bitch about. The Delia's protest is NOT the place to make an issue of OCing, even though I agree and fully support the idea currently being discussed.
    I concur for several reasons. Primarily OC at Delia's very well might cause a secondary issue that in the end could ecplise the intended issue. We don't need the distraction. Also, before the first appearance at Delia's I asked Fred about OC and he requested it not be done, for the same reason as above. Note I said requested, he also stated people can do as they wish, he just prefer that they didn't. Let's just fight one battle at a time.
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    Default Re: Arrested by the Philadelphia Police for Open Carry

    With regards to a gathering, if someone has a Revolutionary War replica flintlock pistol they can OC I'm sure that would make a great photo op. The imagery associated with these weapons as tools against tyranny is well ingrained in people. If the worst happens, the unspoken message of a picture showing an officer confiscating that would really sum up the issue well.

    Just make sure it's unloaded, you know the cops would have no clue how to handle it safely, and the possibility of a negligent discharge would be even higher than usual.

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    Default Re: Arrested by the Philadelphia Police for Open Carry

    Quote Originally Posted by ErSwnn View Post
    I concur for several reasons. Primarily OC at Delia's very well might cause a secondary issue that in the end could ecplise the intended issue. We don't need the distraction. Also, before the first appearance at Delia's I asked Fred about OC and he requested it not be done, for the same reason as above. Note I said requested, he also stated people can do as they wish, he just prefer that they didn't. Let's just fight one battle at a time.
    The bold above is the only reason put forth here I could accept as a reason not to do so at the event, even if based on reasoning I don't agree with.

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    Default Re: Arrested by the Philadelphia Police for Open Carry

    Quote Originally Posted by IronSight View Post
    The bold above is the only reason put forth here I could accept as a reason not to do so at the event, even if based on reasoning I don't agree with.
    Why isnt it just as valid a reason to not do so because it would unduly distract from the reason we are there, it would give our opponents ammunition to use to paint us ( and the shop by proxy) in a negative light by the almost certain to be present media and would be enough of a polarizing act to force the generally nuetral Civil Affairs guys to go " by the book " instead of overlooking minor things the religious nuts complain about that works in our favor ?

    They seem like equally valid reasons to me. Just sayin..........
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    Default Re: Arrested by the Philadelphia Police for Open Carry

    Quote Originally Posted by son of the revolution View Post
    Why isnt it just as valid a reason to not do so because it would unduly distract from the reason we are there,
    You're really trying to argue that carrying while in the act of supporting a gun shop would distract from the reason we are there?

    it would give our opponents ammunition to use to paint us ( and the shop by proxy) in a negative light by the almost certain to be present media
    So OC has to be a negative thing now? That's a new one. The media, if they so choose, will paint us in a negative light for anything they want. If it's a PR war then it's on us to respond to it. Having spoken to my fair share of reporters over the last year I hardly see that being a "oh my god look at the evil gun owner" problem at all.

    and would be enough of a polarizing act to force the generally nuetral Civil Affairs guys to go " by the book " instead of overlooking minor things the religious nuts complain about that works in our favor ?
    So rather than being worried about the media jumping on the illegal parking our side does to put up our message, you are worried about a perfectly legal act? That doesn't seem like backwards logic to you?

    They seem like equally valid reasons to me. Just sayin..........
    I respectfully disagree.

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