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    Default Whats up with the classifieds?

    The big glaring pink statement? Was there some recent idiot activity or something?
    PAFOA provides space for this marketplace for non-prohibited persons to offer to sell or buy legal firearms with other non-prohibited persons. It is the responsibility of every seller and every buyer to comply with all state and federal laws, which includes verifying the buyer's state of residence, refusing sales to prohibited persons, and additional requirements. If you're not sure of the laws, find out. For maximum safety, we suggest doing all transfers of advertised guns through a Federal Firearms Licensee or a Sheriff; this is mandatory for handguns, and mandatory for sales to out-of-state residents, and it’s the only way you can get a PICS check done.

    Requiring that your buyer show you a current PA License to Carry Firearms may provide some assurance that the buyer is not prohibited, but this is not foolproof. Being a registered user or someone that you've met personally is zero assurance of being non-prohibited for firearms possession.

    Certain firearms, parts & accessories are also regulated by the National Firearms Act, so if you're not sure, do the research.

    If you see an ad that you believe violates applicable laws, or if you believe you've been solicited to do an unlawful act, notify site administrators.

    We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.-Benjamin Franklin

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    Default Re: Whats up with the classifieds?

    I think it's a great CYA for PAFOA as well as good information for sellers/buyers to do their own CYA. PAFOA seems to have grown tremendously so it doesn't hurt to cover bases.

    Al

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    Default Re: Whats up with the classifieds?

    Quote Originally Posted by mythaeus View Post
    I think it's a great CYA for PAFOA as well as good information for sellers/buyers to do their own CYA. PAFOA seems to have grown tremendously so it doesn't hurt to cover bases.

    Al
    Then there should also be a statement that all sales are in no way associated to the site.
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    Default Re: Whats up with the classifieds?

    Hey guys,

    Remember, PAFOA is incorporated as a non-profit. As such, it was suggested by legal counsel that a statement be placed on the Classifieds pages, in order to minimize the potential for PAFOA to be held liable in transactions which the organization has nothing to do with.

    That's basically it in a nutshell.
    "Political Correctness is just tyranny with manners"
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    "[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
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    Default Re: Whats up with the classifieds?

    Thanks CR. I was just wondering why the sudden appearence.
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    Default Re: Whats up with the classifieds?

    Needs to be tweaked. Half of the page are warnings, rules, or advertisements, the other half is the content we go there for.
    Get rid of the spaces, shrink the font, have the warning on the main (entry) page, not on every page. The Classifieds are one of the best features on PAFOA. Can't understand why someone wouldn't spend a little more time on it's design.
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    Default Re: Whats up with the classifieds?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Needs to be tweaked. Half of the page are warnings, rules, or advertisements, the other half is the content we go there for.
    Get rid of the spaces, shrink the font, have the warning on the main (entry) page, not on every page. The Classifieds are one of the best features on PAFOA. Can't understand why someone wouldn't spend a little more time on it's design.
    Good suggestion,

    And while your doing that. Make some sub categories in the firearms section breaking out Pistols>Rifles>Shotguns>Other if possible. It would really make using the section a lot cleaner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fr0sty View Post
    Good suggestion,

    And while your doing that. Make some sub categories in the firearms section breaking out Pistols>Rifles>Shotguns>Other if possible. It would really make using the section a lot cleaner.
    this has been requested before and found to be too labor intensive.

    this is not gunbroker or auction arms, this is not intended to be a firearm sales site, the classified are there a convenience to PAFOA members, thats all.
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    Question Re: Whats up with the classifieds?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChamberedRound View Post
    Hey guys,

    Remember, PAFOA is incorporated as a non-profit. As such, it was suggested by legal counsel that a statement be placed on the Classifieds pages, in order to minimize the potential for PAFOA to be held liable in transactions which the organization has nothing to do with.

    That's basically it in a nutshell.

    What does the form of incorporation have to do with liability?

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    Default Re: Whats up with the classifieds?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yentl Marmelstein View Post
    What does the form of incorporation have to do with liability?
    Nothing specifically.
    "Political Correctness is just tyranny with manners"
    -Charlton Heston

    "[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
    -James Madison, Federalist Papers, No. 46.

    "America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy." [sic]
    -John Quincy Adams

    "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies."
    -Thomas Jefferson

    Μολών λαβέ!
    -King Leonidas

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