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Thread: Bethlehem PD's response to LTCF
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November 30th, 2010, 04:23 PM #1Junior Member
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Bethlehem PD's response to LTCF
Here is a recap of an interesting conversation I had with the desk sergeant from the Bethlehem PD a few weeks ago:
I called to find out if they do fingerprinting for employment and licenses. I wanted to get fingerprinted for my FFL application and my FL LTCF. The desk sergeant asked what kind of license am I talking about. I said a FL LTCF and an FFL. He asked me if I lived in FL and why do I need fingerprints done here in PA. I then told him I live in Bethlehem and wanted a FL LTCF. His response: "You're going to carry a gun here?!!!!!" He seemed annoyed that I would dare lawfully carry a firearm in Bethlehem. I can only imagine what would happen to some guy who was carrying with a valid permit from FL and got stopped. Furthermore, he said they don't do THAT kind of fingerprinting (which I know for a fact they do). I went to lehigh County Prison and a very cute girl did it. No hassles no fuss.
Reminds me of an incident that happened to me about 20 years ago. The Nazareth Police (now the Colonial Regional Police) came to my house investigating a break-in at my neighbor's place. I came to the door OC'ing The cops asked me to step outside whereby the took my firearm and searched me. They asked me for my "permit" and I produced it (remember this was before shall issue was in effect, so carry '"permits" were rare) I produced it and said I really don't need one since I am at home. They rebutted by saying that since I stepped outside I am no longer "inside" my residence ( I was still on my property, though. ) They confiscated my Walther and asked if I had anymore "weapons" I said "Yes, I have another pistol." They asked where it was and went to get it (A S&W 69)-IN MY HOUSE! They said I could get them back once they "checked out" my "permit"
A week went by (no word about anything)and I went to the police station asking to get my firearms back. They told me they had been "lost" and that I shouldn't make a fuss over it. I wrote a long letter to the Police Chief and he responded by saying that none of his officers would ever take a firearm and how dare I imply that they would.
I was really young (22)and unknowledgeable about the particulars of the law. I didn't realize that many of my civil rights had been violated. If this happened today, things would have gone differently. The police think they can do whatever they want under the color of the law.
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December 10th, 2010, 12:10 AM #2Member
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Re: Bethlehem PD's response to LTCF
I have no respect for the bethlehem PD any longer after they have shown me time and time again A) they have no knowledge of the law, and B) do not care about individuals civil rights, after they illegally confiscated my brothers pistol. Upon going to the station to retrieve the weapon we were told it was in the "evidence room" and could not be removed. Then we were told it was going to be destroyed. Long story short after several months of going back and forth the weapon was returned, neither I or my brother was happy, and a complaint was filed.....
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December 10th, 2010, 06:33 AM #3
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September 22nd, 2011, 03:54 AM #4
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September 22nd, 2011, 06:08 AM #6
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September 22nd, 2011, 10:23 AM #7
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December 12th, 2011, 10:12 PM #8
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Wow....I'm not too far from Bethlehem (luckily, outside their jurisdiction) but according to the locals from where I moved (used to live very close to Kutztown) the local PD are not only somewhat Wermacht-esque, but also poorly educated on the law and civil rights. I CC constantly, anywhere and everywhere except going onto the grounds of a school. I'm starting to wonder if/how worried I should be about these bozos.
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December 15th, 2011, 05:19 AM #9
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Regarding Bethlehem - yes they can be a little overbearing, but Mary Mother of God - stay out of Hellertown, their PD is like the Gestapo. I was unlawfully detained and searched against my will there 2 years ago, as a passenger in a car which was pulled over and their PD thought the driver (not me) who is an active U.S. Marine, was intoxicated (he wasn't.) I was pulled out of the car and they went thru all my stuff. I wasn't carrying then, I didn't even own a firearm back then, and wow, I'm sort of glad I didn't back then. They were awful.
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December 15th, 2011, 05:39 AM #10
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