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Thread: Tobyhanna SGL Range Reports
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December 28th, 2016, 08:50 PM #721
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December 29th, 2016, 10:11 AM #722
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That's an old DI mantra. Some of the best matches I've shot were in a driving rain.
So I did go up yesterday to test drive my project before I deliver it to the customer.
oops- WTF was I thinking if it's 39 at the house-yea 27 and of course the wind. So a bit underdressed. I hot cup of suck it up and I was fine.
Had the pistol range to myself, put of targets, turned around 4 cars pulled in.
So a guy and girl trudged over from rifle in matching camo bibs and jackets who couldn't get into that whole ask for a cease fire and wait to get the ok I'm clear, then the whole don't handle guns when I'm down range.
The NJ guys one of whom thought the 7 yard target was too close, he wanted to back it up to 10 yards so he backed up to that back of the concrete apron.
Till of course I saw this after getting something out of my truck. Where I loudly corrected him. To the thanks of the one gentleman who had a clue and was concentrating on helping one of the shooters he brought and didn't notice what the asshat was doing.
I got the reddot in fairly well but the guy gave me .38 reloads that were giving me issues that ended the day with a squib.Owner Trigger Time LLc 01 FFL/NFA Saylorsburg, PA. Sales/Service/Transfers/Training
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December 29th, 2016, 08:12 PM #723
Re: Tobyhanna SGL Range Reports
There is no way to make it out alive...
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December 29th, 2016, 10:01 PM #724
Re: Tobyhanna SGL Range Reports
I ran down the other day to try out the new Stevens 320 with some 2 3/4" slugs only to see signs stating "no shotguns". Having read the hunting digest, I recalled that you weren't allowed to shoot shot shells at this range, but I thought single projectile shells were OK. But, not to run afoul of the rules I bailed out. I still had the email address of a WCO from when I was trying to become a hunter ed instructor, so I shot him an email. He confirmed that shooting slugs from a shotgun was allowed. He suggested that the maintenance guys may have done that to prevent people from shooting shot shells and leaving the shells all over the place. It apparently wasn't effective because there was shotgun shells everywhere when I was there.
Went back yesterday and tried out the Stevens. Holy crap! I never realized the recoil coming off a slug. Those damn things felt like getting hit by a hammer. I actually dug out my PAST recoil pad out of my range bag and shot about five boxes of slugs to see how it shot. At fifty yards, those damn slugs drop about 14"-16".
The Stevens is a fun gun to shoot once you reduce the recoil.Sed ego sum homo indomitus
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December 30th, 2016, 08:40 PM #725
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That was precisely my line of thought after reading the "regulations"
It is a range originally designed for hunting practice. that led me to believe its A-OK regardless of barrel design or designation (shotgun/rifle/muzzleloader) as long as single projectile. It's still kind of odd it wasn't spelled out more clearly. Being that hunting regs are specific enough to mention the legality of using particle, IR or UV beams as weapons.
how long is your barrel? have you tried other brands? do they all drop that much?
i'll be heading down soon with my mossberg 24" and low recoil fiocchi slugs.
also, clean up a few shells there and check what they are, bet a lot are shot. I've seen people stand halfway or more downrange and fire at the targets so i'd check those first.
sounds like it still needs a lot more enforcement, thought thats what we were paying for?
Edit:
spent 4 hours there today, monday. 8:30 to 12:30. freezing rain, roadway is glass. saw a few people. a guy collecting brass safely, a guy who left pretty quickly from pistol (cold) a guy and his kid doing mag dumps with an ak and some guy with a muzzle loader :P who forgot hearing protection.
managed to sight in my wife's .22lr rifle scope and wasted a box of 7.62x54r softpoints only to find i was shooting way too high. tested my new ears and binoculars.
all in all was ok, lots of abandoned ammo stuck in snow, lots of abandoned targets from lazy people. broken glass downrange and every shotgun shell i picked up was shot not slug.
target things were pretty shot up and the garbage bag was completely full.
whoever gets there as soon as the snow melts will have a huge haul of brass. it melts into the snow/ice and is irretrievable.Last edited by fallenleader; January 2nd, 2017 at 02:27 PM.
There is no way to make it out alive...
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January 8th, 2017, 11:13 PM #726
Re: Tobyhanna SGL Range Reports
hmm... maybe i should bring a rake and head up this week, shame my monday is packed full. I complained to pgc about broken glass, full trash bag and stuff, asked them to clarify the "no shotgun" signs as well as muzzle loaders... as they're not rifles technically? and are not mentioned in regulations. they basically viewed my message and ignored me. that was just about a week ago.
yes, if your going in the cold. dress properly and just stick it out. use your barrel to warm your fingertips.There is no way to make it out alive...
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January 9th, 2017, 07:24 PM #727
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Stevens says the barrel is 18.5"
No, I didn't try any other brands of slugs. I have since picked up more and different.
I guarantee that most of the shells there would be shot shells because people are assholes and don't read the posted rules. But for those who do read the rules, those posted should be accurate. A simple "Slugs only in shotguns. No shot shells." would be accurate and convey the correct message.Sed ego sum homo indomitus
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January 17th, 2017, 09:01 PM #728
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i would think all it's energy expended hitting part of the metal frame and it probably just fell with as much force as anything small would fall, no velocity.
there is also the possibility that someone was firing pistol at the 50yd or carbine. by the time the round got out there it might have lost enough to again, bounce off the metal posts or the wood frame?
you tend to find crazy things in the dirt out there.There is no way to make it out alive...
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January 18th, 2017, 09:03 AM #729
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This past Summer someone said that he was hearing ricochets coming off the base of the what is referred to as the pistol side.... I found this hard to believe until I was on the rifle side and on occasion myself and a few others would here a ricochet coming from our left..
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January 20th, 2017, 08:43 AM #730
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Someone might be shooting at stuff on the ground where bullets do not impact the berm like their suppose to.
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