Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association
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  1. #1
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    Thumbs up Site trying to send a message to businesses

    Have you seen this website?

    http://www.nogunsnobusiness.com/

    So far just over 1,300 have signed up. If it was my site, I'd include some of the crime or rather lack there of stats to stress that permit holders are the most law abiding citizens...

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    Default Re: Site trying to send a message to businesses

    Cool idea, I signed up.

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    Question Re: Site trying to send a message to businesses

    So....who does this list actually go to again?


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    Default Re: Site trying to send a message to businesses

    Cool idea, but I think they need to list the restaurants that ban guns, and the ones that welcome them to help users make wise choices. Otherwise it's just a petition people sign, feel fuzzy about, while still patronizing places that ban guns because who checks that before making a dinner reservation?

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    Default Re: Site trying to send a message to businesses

    great idea, but it has lots of room for improvement. one major thing would be explaining that *many states* (not all) require training prior to obtaining their permit. PA of course does not, and a mention of that would avoid confusion.

    saying "If permit holders eat out an average of $7 per day
    that's $10528 restaurants are losing to permit neutral restaurants." implies that it's only restaurants we're fighting to gain approval with. a mention of big box retail stores, malls, and a few other key businesses along with an estimated weekly spending pattern would really drive the point home.

    along with that, I'd suggest listing the stores, at least large well known ones, who are against customer (maybe even employee?) carry. A search-able database of retail stores and restaurants would be perfect. the site is already purposely basic looking, so a very simple red = bad, green = good marking system would let people know which businesses to patronize, and which to boycott altogether. maybe a 'stoplight' would work, since you could have yellow designations for businesses that have made their position unclear. that might help prompt people to press them for a definite answer.

    it seems very simple, but i really see it gaining momentum once people start using the site to 'report' gun unfriendly businesses, and for that matter, 'praise' the businesses that support our rights.

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    Default Re: Site trying to send a message to businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by Yentl Marmelstein View Post
    So....who does this list actually go to again?

    i also am somewhat curious of this.
    ONE TO THE HEAD!!!!

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    Default Re: Site trying to send a message to businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by Yentl Marmelstein View Post
    So....who does this list actually go to again?

    Doing a whois on the domain name shows the contacts as "Registration Private".

    quick search elsewhere also comes up empty...

    If God didn't intend us to have guns why would he have given us a trigger finger?

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    Default Re: Site trying to send a message to businesses

    Haha... you guys might have signed up on a .gov watch list
    Hoplophobia is funny

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    Default Re: Site trying to send a message to businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by West Chester View Post
    Haha... you guys might have signed up on a .gov watch list
    Or worse.
    Ceasefire list.
    The 2A does not GIVE us the right. It tells the gov they can not INFRINGE our right.

  10. #10
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    Default Re: Site trying to send a message to businesses

    Ha a gov watch list, maybe but please God let it not be a cease fire mailing list. It's a new site, being just registered on 9/16.

    Since all they are requesting is first initial, last name and zip, I don't think there's anything nefarious going on, of course I could be wrong, but there just isn't much that can be done with that information.

    As a few of you stated above, there are lots of ways they could improve the site and taking a look at it today, they've started to make some changes to the site.

    It is a good idea to communicate to businesses that declare themselves to be gun free zones that people who carry are law abiding and do spend money that they will miss out on. I'd think with the current economy that most businesses wouldn't want to piss off any potential customers, but that's just me.

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