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    Default Re: Latest NJ concealed carry bill

    Quote Originally Posted by phoenix_iii View Post
    I wonder though, why would the court be involved though, as it no longer has to go to a Judge for approval?
    Did you read the same bill?

    d. Issuance by Superior Court; fee. If the application has been
    approved by the chief police officer or the superintendent, as the
    case may be, the applicant shall forthwith present it to the Superior
    Court of the county in which the applicant resides, or to the
    Superior Court in any county where he intends to carry a handgun,
    in the case of a nonresident or employee of an armored car
    company.

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    Default Re: Latest NJ concealed carry bill

    Quote Originally Posted by mrjam2jab View Post
    Did you read the same bill?
    Maybe not! Where are people sourcing from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenix_iii View Post
    Maybe not! Where are people sourcing from?
    This Van Drew bill:

    S 2264

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    Default Re: Latest NJ concealed carry bill

    200/ 250?Tax Stamp for full auto, $500 for concealed carry, next it'll be $500 for freedom of speech!
    -Remember the Constitution-

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    Lightbulb Re: Latest NJ concealed carry bill

    anyone crazy enough to pay $500 to exercise a GOD GIVEN, Constitutionally recognized RIGHT SHOULD have their head examined! And anyone who pays this is financially supporting GUN CONTROL. Simple as that.

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    Default Re: Latest NJ concealed carry bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxPower View Post
    anyone crazy enough to pay $500 to exercise a GOD GIVEN, Constitutionally recognized RIGHT SHOULD have their head examined! And anyone who pays this is financially supporting GUN CONTROL. Simple as that.
    Im meeting with Senator Van Drew on Monday evening, at which time I will inform him that it is a virtual certainty that the fee amount is sure to be overturned as unduly burdensome, a fact Im fairly confident he knows. It may be nothing more then an appeasement to the North Jersey Dems, with the full knowledge it wont pass Court review. We shall see.

    In related news, since the entire foundation of NJ's Gun Legislation scheme is built on the 1968 Burton v Sills case, which relied FULLY on the " collectivist " interpretation of the 2A, which has obviously now been quashed as a result of Heller and McDonald, things are going to be getting mighty interesting in The Peoples Socialist Republic over the next couple years
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    A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. -- Sigmund Freud

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    Default Re: Latest NJ concealed carry bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxPower View Post
    anyone crazy enough to pay $500 to exercise a GOD GIVEN, Constitutionally recognized RIGHT SHOULD have their head examined! And anyone who pays this is financially supporting GUN CONTROL. Simple as that.
    an inch eventually becomes a foot. do i want to pay 500? no, but i would. works takes me into camden. and the range i go to is in NJ.


    probably won't have reciprocity with any other states but hopefully will grant out of state permits. if not i'm moving back in with my parents in nj.
    Last edited by dunsho; September 29th, 2010 at 02:01 AM.

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    Default Re: Latest NJ concealed carry bill

    Quote Originally Posted by dunsho View Post
    an inch eventually becomes a foot. do i want to pay 500? no, but i would.

    I am on a couple NJ forums...and I am astounded by the number of posters who say that they will pay this amount on the reasoning "it's a start"..."get this in place and then attack the $500" and "we have nothing now".

    It doesn't seem to matter how many times I say there is already an existing carry law in place, they just need to eliminate the "justifiable need" from it. They don't seem to understand....but maybe I'm the one who doesn't understand since i don't live over there...???

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    Default Re: Latest NJ concealed carry bill

    Quote Originally Posted by mrjam2jab View Post
    I am on a couple NJ forums...and I am astounded by the number of posters who say that they will pay this amount on the reasoning "it's a start"..."get this in place and then attack the $500" and "we have nothing now".

    It doesn't seem to matter how many times I say there is already an existing carry law in place, they just need to eliminate the "justifiable need" from it. They don't seem to understand....but maybe I'm the one who doesn't understand since i don't live over there...???
    the existing carry law is really non existence for regular people. I was told by an attorney there that it'll cost me 5k for him to help me get a permit, but 95% chance i won't get it. Plus right now if you do have a NJ permit, the permit will have time, day, county and when it'll be legal for you to carry. example, only when large sum of money is carried for work in camden county during 10am to 12pm and 3pm to 6pm on mondays, thursdays, and friday.

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    Default Re: Latest NJ concealed carry bill

    Quote Originally Posted by dunsho View Post
    the existing carry law is really non existence for regular people. I was told by an attorney there that it'll cost me 5k for him to help me get a permit, but 95% chance i won't get it. Plus right now if you do have a NJ permit, the permit will have time, day, county and when it'll be legal for you to carry. example, only when large sum of money is carried for work in camden county during 10am to 12pm and 3pm to 6pm on mondays, thursdays, and friday.
    Ok...so why push to get this new bill in...with it's high fee and additional testing AND restrictions still possible.. then make changes to it...rather than push to make the changes to a law already in place?

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