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    Default So pa permit doesn't work in NY what about open carry?

    Will eb going to a bar right over the ny border, not a city but more of a very rural area near the lakes/wine country I think. Open carry in bars in ny no open carry what is allowed? i dunno what the newest site is. If there isn't one I'd make one.

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    Default Re: So pa permit doesn't work in NY what about open carry?

    In the state of NY you can NOT take your gun into a bar (loaded, unloaded, or locked) unless you want the the police to cart your butt to jail.

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    Default Re: So pa permit doesn't work in NY what about open carry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nate View Post
    In the state of NY you can NOT take your gun into a bar (loaded, unloaded, or locked) unless you want the the police to cart your butt to jail.
    guess i'll have to leave it in the car then, would have to unload? glovebox locked?

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    Default Re: So pa permit doesn't work in NY what about open carry?

    No carry in NY without a permit a NY permit. they don't issue non resident permits. If your cought with a Mag with a capacity of ovver 10 rounds your toast even if it ain't loaded. You can take your pistol to a sactioned match in NY but it must be transported unloaded locked in a secure container and the ammo in a separate locked container. A non resident wandering around NYS with a pistol is looking to get busted.



    Quote Originally Posted by heavyt View Post
    Will eb going to a bar right over the ny border, not a city but more of a very rural area near the lakes/wine country I think. Open carry in bars in ny no open carry what is allowed? i dunno what the newest site is. If there isn't one I'd make one.

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    Default Re: So pa permit doesn't work in NY what about open carry?

    Quote Originally Posted by rwilson452 View Post
    No carry in NY without a permit a NY permit. they don't issue non resident permits. If your cought with a Mag with a capacity of ovver 10 rounds your toast even if it ain't loaded. You can take your pistol to a sactioned match in NY but it must be transported unloaded locked in a secure container and the ammo in a separate locked container. A non resident wandering around NYS with a pistol is looking to get busted.
    1911 8rnds 1 in the chamber is what I carry.

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    Default Re: So pa permit doesn't work in NY what about open carry?

    You can't carry in NY. No how, no way. having a loaded pistol anywhere but at sanctioned match is a no no.



    Quote Originally Posted by heavyt View Post
    1911 8rnds 1 in the chamber is what I carry.

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    Default Re: So pa permit doesn't work in NY what about open carry?

    Originally Posted by rwilson452
    No carry in NY without a permit a NY permit. they don't issue non resident permits. If your cought with a Mag with a capacity of ovver 10 rounds your toast even if it ain't loaded. You can take your pistol to a sactioned match in NY but it must be transported unloaded locked in a secure container and the ammo in a separate locked container. A non resident wandering around NYS with a pistol is looking to get busted.
    Quote Originally Posted by heavyt
    1911 8rnds 1 in the chamber is what I carry.
    Read rwilson's post carefully. The actual capacity of the magazine can also be an issue. If you carry 8+1 in a 14-round mag, you're still breaking the law.

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    Default Re: So pa permit doesn't work in NY what about open carry?

    You mean go to NY intentionally!

    Why would anyone want to do that?
    Dutch

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    Default Re: So pa permit doesn't work in NY what about open carry?

    2. Types of licenses. A license for gunsmith or dealer in firearms
    shall be issued to engage in such business. A license for a pistol or
    revolver, other than an assault weapon or a disguised gun, shall be
    issued to
    (a) have and possess in his dwelling by a householder; (b)
    have and possess in his place of business by a merchant or storekeeper;
    (c) have and carry concealed while so employed by a messenger employed
    by a banking institution or express company; (d) have and carry
    concealed by a justice of the supreme court in the first or second
    judicial departments, or by a judge of the New York city civil court or
    the New York city criminal court; (e) have and carry concealed while so
    employed by a regular employee of an institution of the state, or of any
    county, city, town or village, under control of a commissioner of
    http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/me...MMONQUERY=LAWS

    Everyone's post is good and all but they are all irrelevant.

    ANY pistol in NY MUST be registered. It doesn't matter whether you live in NY or not.

    If you are traveling through NY to another friendly state then keep it unloaded in a lockbox and keep a copy of peaceable journey in your car/truck.

    There was a case not to long ago of a women who was in New Hampshire and was flying out of NY. She was arrested at the airport for trying to check in her luggage an unregistered handgun. Which is interesting because peaceable journey should apply, but doesn't directly mention whether going to an airport to fly out is an extended stop.




    This is the only exemption I see:

    13. Possession of pistols and revolvers by a person who is a
    nonresident of this state while attending or traveling to or from, an
    organized competitive pistol match or league competition under auspices
    of, or approved by, the National Rifle Association and in which he is a
    competitor, within forty-eight hours of such event or by a person who is
    a non-resident of the state while attending or traveling to or from an
    organized match sanctioned by the International Handgun Metallic
    Silhouette Association and in which he is a competitor, within
    forty-eight hours of such event, provided that he has not been
    previously convicted of a felony or a crime which, if committed in New
    York, would constitute a felony, and further provided that the pistols
    or revolvers are transported unloaded in a locked opaque container
    together with a copy of the match program, match schedule or match
    registration card. Such documentation shall constitute prima facie
    evidence of exemption, providing that such person also has in his
    possession a pistol license or firearms registration card issued in
    accordance with the laws of his place of residence. For purposes of this
    subdivision, a person licensed in a jurisdiction which does not
    authorize such license by a person who has been previously convicted of
    a felony shall be presumed to have no prior conviction. The
    superintendent of state police shall annually review the laws of
    jurisdictions within the United States and Canada with respect to the
    applicable requirements for licensing or registration of firearms and
    shall publish a list of those jurisdictions which prohibit possession of
    a firearm by a person previously convicted of a felony or crimes which
    if committed in New York state would constitute a felony.
    Last edited by KeithPA; November 1st, 2007 at 09:47 PM.

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    Default Re: So pa permit doesn't work in NY what about open carry?

    DO what I do...

    Avoid New York.

    Oh, and I avoid bars too, but that's another thread (or was )

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