LTCF needed for Handgun hunting?

[thunderw0lf]

Been searching and can't find the answer. Do I need an LTCF to hunt small game with my 22 mag revolver? What about deer hunting with a larger caliber? I plan to get bigger guns later on.

[smithwessn]

From the PGC- http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal...=608412&mode=2

Firearms - Handguns: A Sportsman’s Firearms permit or a License
to Carry Firearms is required to carry a handgun, or have in a motor
vehicle. Licenses to Carry Firearms permits are issued by county sheriffs
or the Philadelphia Chief of Police. The License to Carry Firearms
permit only entitles bowhunters or spotlighters, for instance, to
carry firearms that fall within this classification. County treasurers
issue Sportsman’s Firearms Permits. A person holding a Sportsman’s
Firearms Permit may not carry a concealed handgun or a loaded
handgun in a vehicle, and may not carry a handgun while
bowhunting or spotlighting.


It's probably best just to get a LTCF and be done with it.
Disclaimer- IANAL or a WCO.

[Steve in PA]

Been searching and can't find the answer. Do I need an LTCF to hunt small game with my 22 mag revolver? What about deer hunting with a larger caliber? I plan to get bigger guns later on.

You need a LTCF or a Sportman's Permit to transport the firearm in a vehicle to where you want to hunt.

You need a LTCF or Sportman's Permit if you will be concealing the firearm while hunting.

If you can walk out your back door and will be carrying openly while hunting, you do not need either.

[Steve in PA]

From the PGC- http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal...=608412&mode=2

Firearms - Handguns: A Sportsman’s Firearms permit or a License
to Carry Firearms is required to carry a handgun, or have in a motor
vehicle. Licenses to Carry Firearms permits are issued by county sheriffs
or the Philadelphia Chief of Police. The License to Carry Firearms
permit only entitles bowhunters or spotlighters, for instance, to
carry firearms that fall within this classification. County treasurers
issue Sportsman’s Firearms Permits. A person holding a Sportsman’s
Firearms Permit may not carry a concealed handgun or a loaded
handgun in a vehicle, and may not carry a handgun while
bowhunting or spotlighting.


It's probably best just to get a LTCF and be done with it.
Disclaimer- IANAL or a WCO.

That bold sentence is incorrect in that no where in the UFA does it say that a person with a SP and transporting a firearm to or from the places they desire to hunt, fish or trap must carry the firearm unloaded.

It is also incorrect in that a person with a SP may carry the firearm concealed while hunting, fishing or trapping, or going to or coming from said places.

The only part of that sentence that is correct is that a person with the SP cannot carry a firearm in their vehicle while spotlighting or on their person while bowhunting.

[bionicskip]

The following is from a post on a different thread:
The following section was taken from the 2010-2011 PA Hunting guide:
Firearms - Handguns: A Sportsman’s Firearms permit or a License
to Carry Firearms is required to carry a handgun, or have in a motor
vehicle. Licenses to Carry Firearms permits are issued by county sheriffs
or the Philadelphia Chief of Police. The License to Carry Firearms
permit only entitles bowhunters or spotlighters, for instance, to
carry firearms that fall within this classification. County treasurers
issue Sportsman’s Firearms Permits. A person holding a Sportsman’s
Firearms Permit may not carry a concealed handgun or a loaded
handgun in a vehicle, and may not carry a handgun while
bowhunting or spotlighting.
__________________
I don't think I wold carry in a vehicle with a loaded weapon and only a Sportsman license!!!

[smithwessn]

That bold sentence is incorrect in that no where in the UFA does it say that a person with a SP and transporting a firearm to or from the places they desire to hunt, fish or trap must carry the firearm unloaded.

It is also incorrect in that a person with a SP may carry the firearm concealed while hunting, fishing or trapping, or going to or coming from said places.

The only part of that sentence that is correct is that a person with the SP cannot carry a firearm in their vehicle while spotlighting or on their person while bowhunting.

The part I quoted was taken directly from the PGC website, copy and paste. Don't shoot the messenger.

[God's Country]

I thought we settled this years ago with respect to transporting a lawful hunting arm (handgun in this case) to and from that activity?

Does exemption 9 not apply?

Granted obtaining a sportsman's permit is cheap, easy, and allows the hunter greater latitude.

§6106. Firearms not to be carried without a license.
(a) Offense defined.
(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), any person who carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license under this chapter commits a felony of the third degree.
(2) A person who is otherwise eligible to possess a valid license under this chapter but carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license and has not committed any other criminal violation commits a misdemeanor of the first degree.
(b) Exceptions.-The provisions of subsection (a) shall not apply to:


(1) Constables, sheriffs, prison or jail wardens, or their deputies, policemen of this Commonwealth or its political subdivisions, or other law-enforcement officers.
(2) Members of the army, navy or marine corps of the United States or of the National Guard or organized reserves when on duty.
(3) The regularly enrolled members of any organization duly organized to purchase or receive such weapons from the United States or from this Commonwealth.
(4) Any persons engaged in target shooting with rifle, pistol, or revolver, if such persons
are at or are going to or from their places of assembly or target practice and if, while going to or from their places of assembly or target practice, the cartridges or shells are carried in a separate container and the rifle, pistol or revolver is unloaded.
(5) Officers or employees of the United States duly authorized to carry a concealed firearm.
(6) Agents, messengers and other employees of common carriers, banks, or business firms, whose duties require them to protect moneys, valuables and other property in the discharge of such duties.
(7) Any person engaged in the business of manufacturing, repairing, or dealing in firearms, or the agent or representative of any such person, having in his possession, using or carrying a firearm in the usual or ordinary course of such business.
(8) Any person while carrying a firearm unloaded and in a secure wrapper from the place of purchase to his home or place of business, or to a place of repair or back to his home or place of business, or in moving from one place of abode or business to another or from his home to a vacation or recreational home or dwelling or back, or to recover stolen property under section
6111.1(6)(4) (relating to Pennsylvania State Police) or to a location to which the person has been directed to surrender firearms under 23 Pa.C.S. §6108 (relating to relief) or back upon return of the surrendered firearm.
(9) Persons licensed to hunt, take furbearers or fish in this Commonwealth, if such persons are actually hunting, taking furbearers or fishing or are going to the places where they desire to hunt, take furbearers or fish or returning from such places.
(10) Persons training dogs, if such persons are actually training dogs during the regular training season.
(11) Any person while carrying a firearm in any vehicle which, person possesses a valid and lawfully issued license for that firearm which has been issued under the laws of the United States or any other state.
(12) A person who has a lawfully issued license to carry a firearm pursuant to section 6109 (relating to licenses) and that said license expired within six months prior to the date of arrest and that the individual is otherwise eligible for renewal of the license.
(13) Any person who is otherwise eligible to possess a firearm under this chapter and who is operating a motor vehicle which is registered in the person's name or the name of a spouse or parent and which contains a firearm for which a valid license has been issued pursuant to section 6109 to the spouse or parent owning the firearm.
(c) Sportsman's firearm permit.
(1) Before any exception shall be granted under paragraph (b)(9) or (10) of this section to any person 18 years of age or older licensed to hunt, trap or fish or who has been issued a permit relating to hunting dogs, such person shall, at the time of securing his hunting, furtaking or fishing license or any time after such license has been issued, secure a sportsman's firearm permit from the county treasurer. The sportsman's firearm permit shall be issued immediately and be valid throughout this Commonwealth for a period of five years from the date of issue for any legal firearm, when carried in conjunction with a valid hunting, furtaking or fishing license or permit relating to hunting dogs. The sportsman's firearm permit shall be in triplicate on a form to be furnished by the Pennsylvania State Police. The original permit shall be delivered to the person, and the first copy thereof, within seven days, shall be forwarded to the Commissioner of the Pennsylvania State Police by the county treasurer. The second copy shall be retained by the county treasurer for a period of two years from the date of expiration. The county treasurer shall be entitled to collect a fee of not more than $6 for each such permit issued, which shall include the cost of any official form. The Pennsylvania State Police may recover from the county treasurer the cost of any such form, but may not charge more than $1 for each official permit form furnished to the county treasurer.

[Steve in PA]

The part I quoted was taken directly from the PGC website, copy and paste. Don't shoot the messenger.

I know and understand where you got that from, but their information is full of fail.

The SP does not let you carry concealed if you are walking or driving down to the Qwikie-mart to visit Apoo and get a giant slushie.

The SP does allow you to carry concealed if you are hunting, fishing, trapping, have a valid hunting, fishing or trapping license......yadda-yadda.....

[thunderw0lf]

Ok now I'm confused. I can strap a handgun to my hip exposed and walk where I want, no permit needed. I can put the unloaded handgun in the trunk and go to the shooting range, perfectly legal.
I cannot transport same gun to hunting area or use it to hunt without a carry permit even though I hold a valid hunting license.

Doesn't make sense that I can walk to Walmart with it loaded but need a permit carry to take it into the woods.

[A-5]

I know and understand where you got that from, but their information is full of fail.

The SP does not let you carry concealed if you are walking or driving down to the Qwikie-mart to visit Apoo and get a giant slushie.

The SP does allow you to carry concealed if you are hunting, fishing, trapping, have a valid hunting, fishing or trapping license......yadda-yadda.....

Then where do we get the right info if we cant't read the digest. Trust me If I can get another reason to rip the PGC on posting the wrong info on the digest let me know where to find it.