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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparks View Post
    That's why no more neat little Italian 25's.
    There is nice Beretta .22 (model 71?) that was imported with a fake silencer "permanently" attached. That puts it over the legal limit. But most people cut/grind it off which is legal after you get it. There are a number of videos on youtube on this.

    These were supposedly used my the Mosul? agents in Israel. I handled one and it was really tempting (and cheap). The only deal breaker for me is when they attached the silencer they ground part of the front site and it didn't look right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparks View Post
    Revolvers - 3", semiauto - not mentioned, but overall length of 6" minimum suggests 3".
    Here's the rules. https://www.atf.gov/file/61591/download
    Started in 1968. Background https://www.nraila.org/articles/1999...ation-criteria
    That's why no more neat little Italian 25's.

    Then why do the Freedom Arms and North American Arms mini-revolvers have barrel 7/8"?

    As for those Italian autos , US made Beretta .22 Bobcat and .25 Jetfire have 2.4in barrels.

    The Bauer US-made copy of the Baby Browning had a 2.1in barrel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abner13 View Post
    Then why do the Freedom Arms and North American Arms mini-revolvers have barrel 7/8"?

    As for those Italian autos , US made Beretta .22 Bobcat and .25 Jetfire have 2.4in barrels.

    The Bauer US-made copy of the Baby Browning had a 2.1in barrel.
    They are not imported.
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    imported hand guns.

    I. Handgun Size and Safety "Prerequisites"
    Pistols: A pistol must have (1) a combined length "not less than 10" with the height . . . at least 4" and the length being at least 6" and (2) "a positive manually operated safety device."
    Revolvers: A revolver must (1) have a frame "of 4 1/2" minimum [and] a barrel length of at least 3" and (2) pass a "safety test" consisting of what is commonly referred to as a "drop test."
    II. The "Point System"

    Pistols: A pistol must earn at least 75 points from the following characteristic areas:
    Overall Length For each 1/4" over 6", 1 pt.
    Frame Construction If investment cast or forged steel, 15 pts.; if investment cast or forged HTS alloy, 20 pts.
    Weight One pt. per ounce; most pistols weigh between 15-40 ounces.
    Caliber If between .22 LR and .380 ACP, three pts.; if 9mm or larger, 10 pts.
    Safety Features Firing pin block or lock, 10 pts.; locked breech, loaded chamber indicator and magazine safety, 5 pts. each; grip safety, 3 pts.
    Misc. Equipment Double-action mechanism, 10 pts.; click adjustble target sight, 10 pts.; drift adjustable target sight, five pts.; target grips, five pts.; target trigger and external hammer, two pts. each.

    Revolvers: A revolver must earn at least 45 points from the following characteristic areas:
    Barrel length For each 1/4" over 4", 1/2 pt.
    Frame construction If investment cast or forged steel, 15 pts.; if investment cast or forged HTS alloy, 20 pts.
    Weight One pt. per ounce. Most revolvers weigh between 15-50 ounces.
    Caliber If .22 LR and .30 to .38 S&W, three pts.; if .357 Mag. or larger, 5 pts.
    Misc. Equipment Adjustable target sights, five pts.; target grips, five pts.; target hammer and trigger, five pts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 93-2.3 View Post
    I'm sure its not practical at all but looked mean I think handgun maximum is 15 inch if you hit 16 inch it becomes sbr if I heard right others on here might know better
    Sorry, but t is simple...the 2A in toto: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Some definitions for libs who attended college [aka brain laundry]:
    Militia....the whole of the People, except for a few gvt officials. [Not just the 5-OH or feds or NGs]

    Regulated:..equipped and trained in the use of that equipment..

    Right....a thing existing b4 the country was founded, and ordained by God.*

    People....the population of able-bodied CITIZENS: men and women, [non-incarcerated]...*

    ARMS....the various weapons 'hand-carried' by the average 18 yr old soldier of the Army. [Pistols, rifles, including the M4 rifle or the M14 rifle and equivalent. Yes, including light machine guns! Not nukes, not armed naval ships or jet fighters. 'Hand carried' is the key phase. See, the laws prohibiting guns for folks under 21 are..unconstitutional too.

    Infringed..abrogated, lessened, prohibited. Rules about "barrel length" and NFA cra[p rules are there4 unconstitutional as well.

    Keep....Buy and OWN

    Bear....Carry and shoot, concealed or openly..in defense of country, city, family, self and kin.*

    The SOCUS can easily interpret various laws as they come b4 it..IF they do not meet the above 2A rules, they are UNconstitutional at the outset. Simple.*
    We have ~~22,000+ "gun laws" in the USA...most are already UNconstitutional and should be null and void. And, yes, the RIGHTS should apply to folks who have been to prison and completed their sentences and their parole requirements..

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    Here is the point system for importing "pistols" and "revolvers".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred762 View Post
    Sorry, but t is simple...the 2A in toto: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Some definitions for libs who attended college [aka brain laundry]:
    Militia....the whole of the People, except for a few gvt officials. [Not just the 5-OH or feds or NGs]

    Regulated:..equipped and trained in the use of that equipment..

    Right....a thing existing b4 the country was founded, and ordained by God.*

    People....the population of able-bodied CITIZENS: men and women, [non-incarcerated]...*

    ARMS....the various weapons 'hand-carried' by the average 18 yr old soldier of the Army. [Pistols, rifles, including the M4 rifle or the M14 rifle and equivalent. Yes, including light machine guns! Not nukes, not armed naval ships or jet fighters. 'Hand carried' is the key phase. See, the laws prohibiting guns for folks under 21 are..unconstitutional too.

    Infringed..abrogated, lessened, prohibited. Rules about "barrel length" and NFA cra[p rules are there4 unconstitutional as well.

    Keep....Buy and OWN

    Bear....Carry and shoot, concealed or openly..in defense of country, city, family, self and kin.*

    The SOCUS can easily interpret various laws as they come b4 it..IF they do not meet the above 2A rules, they are UNconstitutional at the outset. Simple.*
    We have ~~22,000+ "gun laws" in the USA...most are already UNconstitutional and should be null and void. And, yes, the RIGHTS should apply to folks who have been to prison and completed their sentences and their parole requirements..
    I disagree with your idea that the list of arms is not all inclusive.
    Some people just plain suck.
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