Recycling bottles for cash

[dogwontfetch]

Mauser,
I understand that is not legal under the defacing federal property law, but what about the machines at tourist attractions and theme parks where you put two quarters and a " penny " in the coin holder, then crank the handle and watch through the glass as the mechine flattens your "penny" paper thin, embosses it with a chosen logo or enscription and puts a hole in the top so you can wear it on a necklace?

[XD45]

Mauser,
I understand that is not legal under the defacing federal property law, but what about the machines at tourist attractions and theme parks where you put two quarters and a " penny " in the coin holder, then crank the handle and watch through the glass as the mechine flattens your "penny" paper thin, embosses it with a chosen logo or enscription and puts a hole in the top so you can wear it on a necklace?

never really thought about that, i would think they are technically illegal?! maybe part of the cost has to be paid to the treasury or something kinda doubtful but who knows..

sounds like a story for CNN if you ask me

[mauser]

You made me search, that's almost like work. How dare you!
Here's what I found:

Section 331 of Title 18 of the United States code provides criminal penalties for anyone who “fraudulently alters, defaces, mutilates impairs, diminishes, falsifies, scales, or lightens any of the coins coined at the Mints of the United States.” This statute means that you may be violating the law if you change the appearance of the coin and fraudulently represent it to be other than the altered coin that it is. As a matter of policy, the U.S. Mint does not promote coloring, plating or altering U.S. coinage: however, there are no sanctions against such activity absent fraudulent intent.

I take it to mean that it's illegal to alter money to represent other money, could also be called counterfitting. It seems as though it is technically illegal to run one through a machine that alters it, but it's not even worth investigating, much less prosecuting. I do remember seeing a news article within the past few years addressing this issue in regard to the increasing value of scrap metal, specifically copper, stating that melting or otherwise defacing/destroying coins is punishable by a rather hefty fine. I couldn't find any reference to that when I just searched. As I think about it, I believe coin dealers sell common or undesirable coins to smelters. That seems like it would fall into the same category unless there is some provision with the Federal government about it, and there probably is.
Anyone here who is more knowledgeable than I am, please enlighten me.
( I may be sitting on more than $50.00 worth of copper here! That could buy me a little bit more ammo!).

[Jackal]

well i only ask because with inflation the amount of copper in a penny might be wirth more than 1 cent.


Another thing. Titanium is about 7 dollars a pound. The razor blades I use are made of titanium, something to think about if you had ready access to a ton of used razor blades.

[Triggerh4ppy]

I donno guys, mainly if you do it by weight. I seen people pay for their trucks picking up cans/bottles and card board boxes In Quebec, there the cans are $.05 and the bottles are $.10 Seeing they cost you nothing to collect, its a win win situation if you are close to a recycler.

I often see trucks full of metal including cans around here. Aluminuim is at a premium price now, dont bring cans, bring aluminium. Just crush the cans, you can liteally fit a fortune if it in no space flat.

An other thing ppl seem to forget is all the brass they leave at the range, it also is worth $$$ if you know where to bring it.

and where do you bring those i got a shart load of shells laying around cuz i collected em in hopes i could make some cash

[Jackal]

and where do you bring those i got a shart load of shells laying around cuz i collected em in hopes i could make some cash

A recycling plant. Check your phone book and make some calls. I would put it on pafoa first if they are in good shape and you can beat retail.



I was wondering myself about the cans frenchy. They can be recycled in certain states, but what about just at a scrap yard because that are made of aluminum? I'll have to call and find out.

[Jackal]

Maybe someone can clear this up, but why is lead selling for .60 cents per pound at my local scrap yard and it is listed at 1.30 per pound on the market...http://www.metalprices.com/

?? I understand they need to make a profit but giving me 50 percent of the market value seems like crap. Anyone heard of better prices?

[MarcS]

Mauser,
I understand that is not legal under the defacing federal property law, but what about the machines at tourist attractions and theme parks where you put two quarters and a " penny " in the coin holder, then crank the handle and watch through the glass as the mechine flattens your "penny" paper thin, embosses it with a chosen logo or enscription and puts a hole in the top so you can wear it on a necklace?

If you look on those machines, the exception in the law is usually printed right on them

[MarcS]

Another thing. Titanium is about 7 dollars a pound. The razor blades I use are made of titanium, something to think about if you had ready access to a ton of used razor blades.

Those razor blades are actually steel with a "titanium coating" which is something like titanium nitride. It reduces wear. There's an insignificant amount of titanium present. An actual titanium razor blade would take a shitty shaving edge.

Maybe someone can clear this up, but why is lead selling for .60 cents per pound at my local scrap yard and it is listed at 1.30 per pound on the market...http://www.metalprices.com/

?? I understand they need to make a profit but giving me 50 percent of the market value seems like crap. Anyone heard of better prices?

Someone is going to have to process it. Melting down metals back into their raw form isn't cheap.

[mauser]

Maybe someone can clear this up, but why is lead selling for .60 cents per pound at my local scrap yard and it is listed at 1.30 per pound on the market...http://www.metalprices.com/

?? I understand they need to make a profit but giving me 50 percent of the market value seems like crap. Anyone heard of better prices?

What kind of lead do you have?
If it's pure soft lead, it's worth more to a muzzle loader who makes his own balls/bullets than it is to a scrap yard. If it's linotype lead alloy it's worth a lot more to a shooter who is into casting hard lead handgun bullets with a specific alloy in mind. Wheel weights aren't worth too much because of the cleaning involved, but they do make good bullets for a handgun.
Give more details about what you have and how much of it you have, you might be able to find a local buyer.