ak build

**hunter4242** · August 27th, 2010, 05:23 PM

Ahhhh, hey need a hand. I have bulgarina parts, minus the reciever barrel front trunnion. So I got a bulgarian barrel, a trunnion, reciever. Sounds good right? So the front sight is close to the barrel diameter, but the gas block and the rear sight is a little more than a .012 differance between them? dont these press on? Is this right? secondly the trunnion and barrel go together by hand? WTF! can someone help????Your friend in arms..

**justashooter** · August 29th, 2010, 09:16 AM

trunion should be 0.0015" smaller than barrel OD for an interference fit. anything less than 0.0005 is gonna deform the cross pin and come apart in action, allowing excess headspace and gas venting, which ain't pretty in an AK that is close to your face.

gas block and rear sight base are also interference fits. sounds like you got a barrel that is not right. might be a chinese barrel...

**rifleshooter2** · August 29th, 2010, 09:48 AM

Here is a list of dimentions of various AK parts it may help identifiy what you have

BARREL OVERALL LENGTH

SAIGA .223………………………………………………………………………………………........16 ¼
SAIGA .308……………………………………………………………………………………….........16 ¼
BULGARIAN 5.45 AK-74………………………………………………………………………......16 ¼
MAADI 7.62X39…………………………………………………………………………………......16 1/2
HUNGARIAN SA2000M 7.62X39………………………………………………………………...16 1/4
HUNGARIAN AMD 65 ………………………………………………………………………….........12 ½
HUNGARIAN AMD 63…………………………………………………………………………..........16 ½
ROMANIAN G …………………………………………………………………………………........... 16 ¼
YUGOSLAVIAN AB2…………………………………………………………………………….......16 ¼
YUGOSLAVIAN VIRGIN KRINK………………………………………………………………..........10
YUGOSLAVIAN M72 RPK……………………………………………………………………….......21 ¼
RUSSIAN MILLED AK-47……………………………………………………………………….......16 ¼
ROB. ARMS VEPR 7.62X39……………………………………………………………………....16 5/8
POLISH U/F 7.62X39…………………………………………………………………………….....16 ¼
POLISH TANTAL 5.45X39……………………………………………………………………....16 5/8
MAK 90 7.62X39 U/F……………………………………………………………………………......16 ½
MILLED TYPE 56 7.62X39………………………………………………………………………....16 ¼

CHAMBER OUTSIDE DIAMETER

SAIGA .223……………………………………………………………… ………………………..........N/A
SAIGA .308……………………………………………………………………………………......... .. 986
BULGARIAN 5.45 AK-74………………………………………………………………………........ N/A
MAADI 7.62X39…………………………………………………………………………………......... N/A
HUNGARIAN SA2000M 7.62X39………………………………………………………………...... N/A
HUNGARIAN AMD 65 ………………………………………………………………………......... .908
HUNGARIAN AMD 63…………………………………………………………………………......... .908
ROMANIAN G …………………………………………………………………………………........... .908
YUGOSLAVIAN AB2……………………………………………………………………….......... .908
YUGOSLAVIAN VIRGIN KRINK……………………………………………………………........ .908
YUGOSLAVIAN M72 RPK……………………………………………………………………........ .908
RUSSIAN MILLED AK-47………………………………………………………………………........ N/A
ROB. ARMS VEPR 7.62X39……………………………………………………………………...... .908
POLISH U/F 7.62X39…………………………………………………………………………...... .908
POLISH TANTAL 5.45X39…………………………………………………………………...... .908
MAK 90 7.62X39 U/F…………………………………………………………………………....... .762
MILLED TYPE 56 7.62X39……………………………………..……………………………...... N/A

MUZZLE THREAD / THREAD LENGTH

SAIGA .223……………......................................... .............................. N/A
SAIGA .308…………………………………………………………………………………............... .N/A
BULGARIAN 5.45 AK-74……M24 X 1.5 RH…………………………………………....... .780
MAADI 7.62X39…………………………………………………………………………….............. N/A
HUNGARIAN SA2000M 7.62X39………………………………… ………………………......... N/A
HUNGARIAN AMD 65 …………M14 X 1 LH………………………………………….......... .610
HUNGARIAN AMD 63…………M14 X 1 LH………………………………………….......... .570
ROMANIAN G …………………M14 X 1 LH…………………………………………............. .560
YUGOSLAVIAN AB2…………M14 X 1 LH………………………………………….......... .560
YUGOSLAVIAN VIRGIN KRINK………M26 X 1.5 LH……………………………… ........ .700
YUGOSLAVIAN M72 RPK……………M14 X 1 LH…………………………. ………......... .580
RUSSIAN MILLED AK-47…………M14 X 1 LH…………………………………….......... .560
ROB. ARMS VEPR 7.62X39… NO THREADS .614 DIA…………………………... .500
POLISH U/F 7.62X39……………M14 X 1 LH………………………………………........ .590
POLISH TANTAL 5.45X39……M14 X 1 LH…………………………………………...... 1.500
MAK 90 7.62X39 U/F………THREADS TURNED OFF .530 DIA……………….... .640
MILLED TYPE 56 7.62X39……M14 X 1 LH………………………………………….. ......570

BARREL DIA. FOR GAS BLOCK / G.B. OVERALL LENGTH

SAIGA .223……….................... 631 ……………..................................1.410
SAIGA .308…………….............. .712 ………………………………………………...... 1.400
BULGARIAN 5.45 AK-74…….......592 . ……………………………………………...... 1.425
MAADI 7.62X39……………......... .592 ……………………………………………...... 1.060
HUNGARIAN SA2000M 7.62X39 ..591 ……………………………………………...... 1.050
HUNGARIAN AMD 65 ………….......592 …………………………………………… ......1.060
HUNGARIAN AMD 63……………......592 ……………………………………………. ......1.060
ROMANIAN G …………………..........592 ……………………………………………... .....1.065
YUGOSLAVIAN AB2……………......631 ……………………………………………. ....1.540
YUGOSLAVIAN VIRGIN KRINK......591 ……………………………………………...... 1.665
YUGOSLAVIAN M72 RPK………. .808 ……………………………………………...... 1.440
RUSSIAN MILLED AK-47……….. .631 ……………………………………………..... 1.450
ROB. ARMS VEPR 7.62X39……… .790 …………………………………………….... .. 1.060
POLISH U/F 7.62X39……………. .592 …………………………………………….. ... 1.060
POLISH TANTAL 5.45X39……… .580 ……………………………… ……………...... 2.070
MAK 90 7.62X39 U/F…………….. .631 ……………………………………………... . ..1.350
MILLED TYPE 56 7.62X39……… .631 ………………………………. …………….. .. 1.450

GAS BLOCK DIMENSIONS

DISTANCE TO CENTER OF GAS HOLE FROM :
FR. OF GAS BLOCK / HOLE DIA. / R. OF GAS BLOCK

SAIGA .223……………… .990 …………………… .180 …………………………….. .418
SAIGA .308……………… 975 ……………………… .I80 ………………………….... .415
BULGARIAN 5.45 AK-74…………………………………………................................ .....
MAADI 7.62X39……………………………………………………....................... ................
HUNGARIAN SA2000M 7.62X39 ………….............................................. ........
HUNGARIAN AMD 65 ………………………………… .....133 .....................................
HUNGARIAN AMD 63………………………………… ......149………….............................
ROMANIAN G ……………………………………………..... 149………...............................
YUGOSLAVIAN AB2… .438 ………………….......149 ……….....................1.100
YUGOSLAVIAN VIRGIN KRINK………………………………................................. ........
YUGOSLAVIAN M72 RPK……………………………… ..122 ………...............................
RUSSIAN MILLED AK-47……………………………… .175………................................
ROB. ARMS VEPR 7.62X39………………………………………............................ ..........
POLISH U/F 7.62X39…………………………………....149 …………...........................
POLISH TANTAL 5.45X39………………………………………............................ .........
MAK 90 7.62X39 U/F…………………………………… 175………................................
MILLED TYPE 56 7.62X39…………………………….. 172……………………………………….....

BARREL DIA. @ HANDGUARD RETAINER

SAIGA .223……………………………………………………………… ………………………....... N/A
SAIGA .308………………………………………………………………………………………........ N/A
BULGARIAN 5.45 AK-74………………………………………………………………………..... .667
MAADI 7.62X39…………………………………………………………………………………..... .670
HUNGARIAN SA2000M 7.62X39………………………………………………………………... .668
HUNGARIAN AMD 65 …………………………………………………………………………...... .670
HUNGARIAN AMD 63…………………………………………………………………………...... .669
ROMANIAN G ……………………………………………………………………………………........ .668
YUGOSLAVIAN AB2…………………………………………………………………………....... .688
YUGOSLAVIAN VIRGIN KRINK……….......................................... .......... .689
YUGOSLAVIAN M72 RPK………………………………………………………………………..... .944
RUSSIAN MILLED AK-47………………………………………. ……………………………….... .686
ROB. ARMS VEPR 7.62.............................................. ....................... N/A
POLISH U/F 7.62X39........................................... ........................... .668
POLISH TANTAL 5.45X39…………………………………………………………………….... .657
MAK 90 7.62X39 U/F…………………………………………………………………………….... .688
MILLED TYPE 56 7.62X39…………………………………………………………………….... .688

BARREL DIA. @ FSB / OVERALL LENGTH OF FSB

SAIGA .223………………………… .... .594 ………………………………….................2.330
SAIGA .308…………………………. .....671 ………………………………………............1.625
BULGARIAN 5.45 AK-74………... .572 …………………………………………………… 1.300
MAADI 7.62X39…………………..... .572…………………………………………………….... .865
HUNGARIAN SA2000M 7.62X39 ….572……………………………………………………..... .850
HUNGARIAN AMD 65 …………….... .572…………………………………………………… .....850
HUNGARIAN AMD 63……………..... .572 ……………………………………………………. 1.050
ROMANIAN G ……………………....... .572 ……………………………….................... .865
YUGOSLAVIAN AB2…………… ......592 ……………………………………............. 1.235
YUGOSLAVIAN VIRGIN KRINK.......592 ………………………………....................1.665
YUGOSLAVIAN M72 RPK………… ... N/A……………………………………………........ 1.130
RUSSIAN MILLED AK-47………..... .591 ………………………………………………..... 1.170
ROB. ARMS VEPR 7.62X39………… N/A…………………………………………………… 1.050
POLISH U/F 7.62X39……………… .572……………………………………………………… .850
POLISH TANTAL 5.45X39……… .562…………………………………......................850
MAK 90 7.62X39 U/F……………... .592 …………………………........................1.165
MILLED TYPE 56 7.62X39………. .592…………………………….......................1.450

GAS TUBE LENGTH

SAIGA .223……………………………………………………………………………………… 6.970
SAIGA .308……………………………………………………………………………………….. 6.950
BULGARIAN 5.45 AK-74………………………………………………………………………. 6.970
MAADI 7.62X39………………………………………………………………………………… 6.970
HUNGARIAN SA2000M 7.62X39……………………………………………………………… 5.740
HUNGARIAN AMD 65 …………………………………………………………………………. 5.770
HUNGARIAN AMD 63…………………………………………………………………………... 6.940
ROMANIAN G …………………………………………………………………………………... 6.970
YUGOSLAVIAN AB2………………………………………………………………………….. 7.540
YUGOSLAVIAN VIRGIN KRINK……………………………………………………………... 6.060
YUGOSLAVIAN M72 RPK…………………………………………………………………….. 7.530
RUSSIAN MILLED AK-47……………………………………………………………………… 6.970
ROB. ARMS VEPR 7.62X39…………………………………………………………………….. 6.970
POLISH U/F 7.62X39…………………………………………………………………………... 6.970
POLISH TANTAL 5.45X39……………………………………………………………………. 6.980
MAK 90 7.62X39 U/F…………………………………………………………………………... 6.980
MILLED TYPE 56 7.62X39…………………………………………………………………….. 6.980

**mojo** · September 1st, 2010, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by hunter4242

Ahhhh, hey need a hand. I have bulgarina parts, minus the reciever barrel front trunnion. So I got a bulgarian barrel, a trunnion, reciever. Sounds good right? So the front sight is close to the barrel diameter, but the gas block and the rear sight is a little more than a .012 differance between them? dont these press on? Is this right? secondly the trunnion and barrel go together by hand? WTF! can someone help????Your friend in arms..

So is this a '74 or '47 kit?

Barrel sizes for AK-47 (milled) are different than AKM-47 (stamped). If it's a '74 kit, then something don't sound right.