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    Default Can I do this?

    My partner at my shop used to be a gunshop owner,he says he thinks I can do this,but he wasn't positive.I want to build a magazine fed .22 bolt action target pistol.Obviously,the easiest way to do this would be to start with a bolt action rifle action.Now..Can I register a rifle as a pistol,then do the conversion? I'll know the configuration up front,barrel length,caliber,ETC. to register it...OR..What if I started with a rifle action,and put my own serial # on it,and treated it as a gun I built? I know about not being able to sell or transfer it already if I roll my own..I'm looking at building something like an XP-100 style pistol in .22 LR with a 10" barrel.

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    Default Re: Can I do this?

    I don't think you can buy the whole rifle and register it as a pistol, but IANAL... but if you just buy the receiver, then it should just be registered as a pistol, kinda like when you buy a stripped AR lower.
    Security without liberty is called prison.

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    Default Re: Can I do this?

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    Default Re: Can I do this?

    1) There is no registration in Pa,
    2) You can not make a pistol from a receiver that has been configured as a rifle without filing a ATF Form-1 and paying a $200 making tax
    3) You can build from a receiver that has never been assembled into a rifle. No paperwork required provided the pistol is a title-1 firearm (non NFA)
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    you won't, I will not sit with my thumb up my bum and complain, because you will.
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    Default Re: Can I do this?

    I'm not trying to start a fight but I'd still argue that pistols are de facto registered into the non-database database.
    Security without liberty is called prison.

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    Default Re: Can I do this?

    Quote Originally Posted by JB19Kilo View Post
    I don't think you can buy the whole rifle and register it as a pistol, but IANAL... but if you just buy the receiver, then it should just be registered as a pistol, kinda like when you buy a stripped AR lower.
    There is no registration in Pa.

    Receiver are transferred from the FFL as receivers. Even if the FFL incorrectly transfers it as a rifle or pistol, it still make no difference as to what you build it into as a stripped, virgin rcvr can be built into a rilfe or pistol regardless of what how the FFL logged it.
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    danbus wrote: ...Like I said before, I open carry because you don't, I fight for all my rights because
    you won't, I will not sit with my thumb up my bum and complain, because you will.
    Remember Meleanie

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    Default Re: Can I do this?

    Quote Originally Posted by JB19Kilo View Post
    I'm not trying to start a fight but I'd still argue that pistols are de facto registered into the non-database database.
    Call it what you want. But it's not accurate.

    Registration is unlawful (18Pa.C.S.6111.4) and the database of form SP4-113 that the PSP is illegally retaining is NOT a registration per the SCOPA.

    More info on the topic of registration can be found here:
    http://forum.pafoa.org/general-2/414...nsfers-pa.html
    ...and the registration discussion should probably be continued in that thread.
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    danbus wrote: ...Like I said before, I open carry because you don't, I fight for all my rights because
    you won't, I will not sit with my thumb up my bum and complain, because you will.
    Remember Meleanie

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    Default Re: Can I do this?

    Alright I'll agree by that standard.
    Security without liberty is called prison.

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    Default Re: Can I do this?

    Quote Originally Posted by PisnNapalm View Post
    What's the fun of buying it? I built this for 35 bucks,shoots a half inch at 25 yards.I built it from junk I had sitting around..


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    Default Re: Can I do this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pa. Patriot View Post
    1) There is no registration in Pa,
    2) You can not make a pistol from a receiver that has been configured as a rifle without filing a ATF Form-1 and paying a $200 making tax
    3) You can build from a receiver that has never been assembled into a rifle. No paperwork required provided the pistol is a title-1 firearm (non NFA)
    How about if I make my own receiver,and use an existing bolt?It's gonna be a 5 shot .22LR. Even if I hafta pay the 200 bucks,it's still cheaper than buying something like an Anschutz,LOL!!!
    Last edited by ROBOWOP; August 25th, 2010 at 08:57 PM.

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