thinking about a suppressor

[den9]

who gets the 200 dollars?
do i need some special approval or leo write off?
how would i sell a can if i decided i didnt want it?
is it legal to use a suppressor for carry?
is there some kind of form i need to carry around?
if there is a form does it need to have my gun info and serial number on it?
can i use the suppressor on a different gun legally?
whats the average wait time for the tax stamp?
who approves the tax stamp?

maybe this can be a sticky?

[G23neverjams]

I have been wondering the same things actually. And so... I SECOND THE MOTION TO TURN THIS INTO A STICKY!

[GunLawyer001]

Um, did either of you look at the existing stickies?

[G23neverjams]

No I didn't GL... I am aware that I don't have the money for the can yet so I didn't put and overly large ammount of effort into searching for info beyond the basics...

[GunLawyer001]

No I didn't GL... I am aware that I don't have the money for the can yet so I didn't put and overly large ammount of effort into searching for info beyond the basics...

This section only has 6 stickies, you might find some useful info regarding suppressors in the one titled "Quick FAQS related to Machine Guns and Suppressors..."

Jay Bell is quite knowledgeable in this area.

[den9]

No I didn't GL... I am aware that I don't have the money for the can yet so I didn't put and overly large ammount of effort into searching for info beyond the basics...

really? i didnt realize you had my bank account info.

[den9]

Now, the NFA process is not a licensing or permit process per se.

It's basically paying a federal luxury tax to own a restricted and controlled class of weapon.

The tax is a one time payment to the federal Govt, and all tax records are confidential, ATF does not, and cannot release ownership info without a criminal case, or court order....the info is similar to your IRS 1040.

This tax privacy restriction ONLY counts for the Feds, local LEs that have this information are not restricted legally from using it, or releasing it!

Most folks dont have the patience to go thru the process, or thier local CLEO wont sign, etc....I'll touch more on this later.

tax fees for NFA items are on a set scale, most have been set since 1934 at one rate, others have been changed over the years to add or remove certain weapon classes.

the one time TRANSFER (from dealer to buyer in state, or private seller to buyer in state) tax of $200 is for:
Machineguns
Silencers/Suppressors
Short barrel Shotguns
Short Barrel Rifles
Destructive devices





i dont understand, do i need a leo sign off or not?

[GunLawyer001]

. . .

i dont understand, do i need a leo sign off or not?

http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/atf-f-5320-4.pdf

[G23neverjams]

haha, that just means that our bank accounts are the same! lol

Gun lawyer, can you point out which sticky would be the one to read as far as me having my dad machine a can for me but doing it legally? I want to read all of the stickies but too much info at once will just clutter my brain and I won't be able to focus / take away from it the info that I need to retain. (too many different forms and procedures!) lol

PS... rep sent for pointing me to the stickies... great reading so far and answered alot of questions already.

[NikeBauer21]

haha, that just means that our bank accounts are the same! lol

Gun lawyer, can you point out which sticky would be the one to read as far as me having my dad machine a can for me but doing it legally? I want to read all of the stickies but too much info at once will just clutter my brain and I won't be able to focus / take away from it the info that I need to retain. (too many different forms and procedures!) lol

PS... rep sent for pointing me to the stickies... great reading so far and answered alot of questions already.

http://forum.pafoa.org/nfa-class-3-t...a-jaybell.html

You can indeed make most NFA items with prior approval from the ATF, you dont have to be a licensed dealer or manufacturer to make NFA items for your personal use, you merely have to fill out the paperwork, provide required info, pay the tax, and get approval first.

To MAKE any NFA firearm is a single one time $200 tax PER ITEM.

Machineguns
Silencers/Suppressors
Short barrel Shotguns
Short Barrel Rifles
Destructive devices

You can make all NFA firearms listed above for personal use except machineguns, and explosive destructive devices.

Explosive destructive devices may not be posessed in PA by civilians(non DD dealers/MFGs) regardless of registration status.


heres how it actually works, the process.

might want to start first with asking around to local dealers and other shooters that have this stuff, if your local Chief of Police( CLEO = chief law enforcement officer) will sign the forms to get the item you want.

Everything else is basically the same I believe.