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July 14th, 2010, 08:01 PM #41
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July 14th, 2010, 10:05 PM #42
Re: No ltcf, what are transport laws for weekend in hotel?
It will probably qualify as a "vacation or recreational home or dwelling" under 6106(b)(8).
A person doesn't actually "move" in the sense of changing residence when going on vacation or to a recreational camp. Dwelling which is defined under Chap.5 covers just about any structure fixed or temporary.Last edited by knight0334; July 14th, 2010 at 10:16 PM.
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July 15th, 2010, 08:00 AM #43
Re: No ltcf, what are transport laws for weekend in hotel?
This is precisely the route that would be taken. No stops for food, no stops for ammo, etc. Then again, I would be driving between all these places anyway, so it really wouldn't matter since I have my LTCF. I guess the question would really only involve my brother transporting his firearm from his home to the hotel, and from the hotel to his home. And according to the "vacation or recreational home or dwelling" part of the law, I think that he would be covered under that for legal transport of his firearm.
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July 15th, 2010, 09:06 AM #44
Re: No ltcf, what are transport laws for weekend in hotel?
I'm curious to what you'd think a "vacation or recreational dwelling" could be loosely defined as? I think it's pretty univerasal that a hotel, beach house, cabin, B&B, weekly rental, etc are clearly vacation dwellings.
I think the "moving from one place of abode to another" exception could fall into a fuzzy definition. But the vacation dwelling exception is much more clear.
To the OP's brother - "BE SURE; BE VERY SURE"
If I were making this trip, I would book my hotel and print out the reservation. Print out maps from my house to the hotel and follow that route EXACTLY. Also print out directions from hotel to shooting range and follow those EXACTLY. In the event I was pulled over and the firearm becomes an issue I'd show that I'm on the route to my hotel.
Also write up an itinerary of what I'm doing on my vacation, ie: visting family, sightseeing, shooting range, etc. Keep it with my hotel papers.The right to bear arms isn't for hunting bear. Subliminal Messages
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July 15th, 2010, 10:10 AM #45
Re: No ltcf, what are transport laws for weekend in hotel?
Went back and did some more research. Found a statutory definition (below) as well as similar language in pending legislation:
18 Pa CSA 501
"Dwelling." Any building or structure though movable or
temporary, or a portion thereof, which is for the time being the
home or place of lodging of the actor.
I concede the pointIANAL
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July 15th, 2010, 01:08 PM #46Senior Member
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Re: No ltcf, what are transport laws for weekend in hotel?
Do you need a LTCF to transport a gun from your home to a hunting location? The UFC seems to only covers target practice and homes.
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July 15th, 2010, 01:47 PM #47
Re: No ltcf, what are transport laws for weekend in hotel?
When you say gun, do you mean rifle/shotgun? In which case, no. The LTCF only applied to firearms
"Firearm." Any pistol or revolver with a barrel length less than 15 inches, any shotgun with a barrel length less than 18 inches or any rifle with a barrel length less than 16 inches, or any pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun with an overall length of less than 26 inches. The barrel length of a firearm shall be determined by measuring from the muzzle of the barrel to the face of the closed action, bolt or cylinder, whichever is applicable.
You hunting location would be a "vacation or recreational home or dwelling".
I strongly suggest anyone who travels with a firearm get their LTCF. It makes it so much easier and safer. It enables you to make stops or changes to your trip rather than going from point A to B.The right to bear arms isn't for hunting bear. Subliminal Messages
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July 15th, 2010, 02:56 PM #48Senior Member
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Re: No ltcf, what are transport laws for weekend in hotel?
Revolver! My hunting location may not have a home on it! Could be a SGL.
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