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    Default Re: CCW Jefferson Hospital

    King - I understand. I was simply trying to explain that MANY hospitals are gun-free zones... some are a little more reasonable than others.

    And would it really be safe to allow someone to have access to a firearm if they are being given medications that could A) sedate them and/or B) have mind-altering effects?

    As for this hospital, the rule was if there wasn't a valid LCTF, we'd THEN bring in the local PD to handle the situation. Not the best way it could be handled...but not the worst, either.

    Jon

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlgpa View Post
    No metal detectors in the main hospital. And no signs that I ever noticed saying you can't. Not sure about the ER. Typically with hospitals the metal desctors and "enhanced" security is in the ER. CC there all you want. I've never had a problem.

    Very very bad option. Never trust turning over your firearm to hospital security. Here's a horror story of what may happen.
    http://forum.pafoa.org/concealed-car...ency-room.html
    ^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^
    This. And horror isn't too strong of a word.
    Selling off a a sizeable Spyderco collection here

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    Default Re: CCW Jefferson Hospital

    DO YOU THINK THIS APPLES. look at #7


    Off-limits places in PA and what makes them off-limits:
    1. Court Facilities - PA Title 18, Chapter 9, Subsection 913
    2a.*Grounds and buildings of Elementary and Secondary schools(K-12 grades), whether the school is private or public. There is an affirmative defense for "other lawful purposes" however there is no case law determining on what that includes. To be safe, its wiser to assume it does not include our carrying "rights". - PA Title 18, Chapter 9, Subsection 912
    2b. Within 1000ft of a school unless you have a license/permit issued by the state in which the school is located - US Title 18, Part I, Chapter 44, Subsection 922(q)
    3. Casinos - by regulation Title 58, Part VII, Chapter 465, Subsection 465a.13
    4. Certain Department of State buildings - by regulation
    5. ****Places off-limits by Federal Law or regulation, IE: military installations(exceptions for hunting at some bases), Federal Government buildings, after the security check point in airports,etc.
    6. Any private property where a landowner, tenant or person so authorized to maintain property has asked you to leave because you are carrying, or where the property owner or tenant has placed signs or placards denoting that guns are forbidden - Title 18, Chapter 35, Subsection 3503
    7. Detention facilities, correctional institutes, or mental hospitals - Title 18, Chapter 51, Subsection 5122


    The 14th and 13th floor of the Thompson building is the Psychiatric ward. if your surgery is in the Gibbon or Pavilion buildings (wear all surgery except neurological surgery takes place) The buildings are all connected via hallways you cant tell when you change buildings..

    I know if you are in a building that connects to a courtroom by a hallway it to is off limits. is this the same for mental hospitals

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    Default Re: CCW Jefferson Hospital

    Old Thread, but i needed to know. What i found using Google > http://www.jefferson.edu/security/policies/weapons.cfm
    Policy Number 119.05

    Thomas Jefferson University and Thomas Jefferson University Hospitals, Inc. (Jefferson) prohibit all persons who enter any Jefferson property from carrying a handgun, firearm, or prohibited weapon of any kind on to any Jefferson property regardless of whether or not the person is licensed to carry the weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 243winxb View Post
    Old Thread, but i needed to know. What i found using Google > http://www.jefferson.edu/security/policies/weapons.cfm
    Policy Number 119.05

    Thomas Jefferson University and Thomas Jefferson University Hospitals, Inc. (Jefferson) prohibit all persons who enter any Jefferson property from carrying a handgun, firearm, or prohibited weapon of any kind on to any Jefferson property regardless of whether or not the person is licensed to carry the weapon.
    "All persons". No doubt they include police officers and their own security staff in that.
    I am not a lawyer. Nothing I say or write is legal advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twency View Post
    "All persons". No doubt they include police officers and their own security staff in that.
    Their security staff is unarmed. They have big old sticks batons, and are Act 235 certified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 243winxb View Post
    Old Thread, but i needed to know. What i found using Google > http://www.jefferson.edu/security/policies/weapons.cfm
    Policy Number 119.05

    Thomas Jefferson University and Thomas Jefferson University Hospitals, Inc. (Jefferson) prohibit all persons who enter any Jefferson property from carrying a handgun, firearm, or prohibited weapon of any kind on to any Jefferson property regardless of whether or not the person is licensed to carry the weapon.

    THE IRONY HANGS HEAVY IN THE AIR!!!!!

    (Enter your favorite Jefferson quote on RKBA)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImminentDanger View Post

    THE IRONY HANGS HEAVY IN THE AIR!!!!!

    (Enter your favorite Jefferson quote on RKBA)
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    I think the same thing when I see the "No weapons" sign outside the Jefferson Memorial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philbert View Post
    I think the same thing when I see the "No weapons" sign outside the Jefferson Memorial.

    or Philadelphia as a City.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philbert View Post
    I think the same thing when I see the "No weapons" sign outside the Jefferson Memorial.
    And the Constitution Center and Liberty Bell. How ironc!

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