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    Default Scouting for a small framed 9mm..

    I'm doing some scouting for a small framed 9mm for my dad. He lives in Florida and has his FL CWP, but as you all probably know its hotter than 5 hells and as humid as being under 100ft of water. He needs something that will endure humidity and sweat, something lightweight, compact, almost pocketable(he'll probably pocket carry). No preaching needed about that carry practice, dad has been carrying longer than I've been living. ..he's quite skilled with guns and carrying - trust me, he is the only person I've met that I would trust to shoot an apple off my head.

    However, like myself he's a primarily a revolver guy. He does own a semi-auto(Raven 25acp), but he and I both feel that isn't enough. His revolvers are all too big and bulky for pocket carry.. His initial thought was to get a small 380 like my mom carries, but when I reminded him that a box of 380 is $30-50 and 9mm is $10-$20 he instantly changed his mind.

    Money is a factor, being retired he doesn't have the income he once had(thanks to economy losing 75% of his 401K). I'd say he'd probably top out at $350 on a new/used purchase. So the Rohrbaugh is out of the question..

    Dad and I both are open to all manufacturers. We aren't snobs to guns, so feel free to suggest anything that fits the description.
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    Default Re: Scouting for a small framed 9mm..

    Walther PPS in 9mm is perfect for this role, except the price puts it out of your range.

    Look for a used G26. Too fat for what you want I think but you should be able to get one closer to your price range.

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    Thumbs up Re: Scouting for a small framed 9mm..

    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn.L View Post
    Walther PPS in 9mm is perfect for this role, except the price puts it out of your range.

    Look for a used G26. Too fat for what you want I think but you should be able to get one closer to your price range.
    Ditto.

    I have a Glock out in the elements year round without any problems at all. It is thick like the M&P. I do not know if the new S&W Bodygaurd is any thinner.

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    Default Re: Scouting for a small framed 9mm..

    Kel tec PF9 Love mine have never had any Issues fires every time. Very light But only 7 round mag for a revolver guy should not be a problem. I forget I have it on me May be alittle big for the pocket but a nice small Don Hume IWB works for me should also be in the price range you are looking.
    There are plenty of Kel Tec haters out there but mine has worked flawless. Good Luck.
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    Default Re: Scouting for a small framed 9mm..

    Taurus pt709slim shouild be right up his alley

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    Default Re: Scouting for a small framed 9mm..

    I have a Glock 26. I love it but if I tried to pocket carry my pants would fall down. It's a dream IWB, OWB or even in the pocket of my barn coat in cooler weather.

    For pocket carry I second the vote for Keltec PF-9. I fondled one today at a gun show and it's within your price range and very concealable. Keltec also has a P-11 that is slightly wider and takes a 10 or 12 round mag.

    CDNN has the P-11 w/10 round mag or the PF-9 w/7 round mag in their latest catalog for $229.

    Another to consider is the Kahr CW-9. I haven't played with one yet. At a glance it seems similar in size to a Glock 26 but thinner since it's single stack.

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    Default Re: Scouting for a small framed 9mm..

    Kahr K9. There is one here on the forum for sale for under 400 and Bob at Classic Pistol has one used in the case for 350 (I think). That is, if he insists on an auto. The K9 is a fantastic auto that has a great trigger and is quite compact.

    If your dad is wheel gunner why not look for a used 642? They can be head for around 350 used and are fantastic. I pocket carry mine and indeed enjoy it and shoot it well.
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    Default Re: Scouting for a small framed 9mm..

    I have a PF-9 and I like it for what it is (a low cost pocket gun for when I can't or don't want to carry my 1911). That being said, I'm really considering getting a glock 26 for IWB carry (smaller and lighter than my kimber pro carry). The PF-9 is not a range gun. It will beat on your hand considerably more than a standard compact or full size pistol in 45 acp (due to it's light weight). That being said, I can put it in the pocket of my mesh shorts and go for a walk... it won't pull them down

    The PF-9 is plenty accurate, but the trigger takes some getting used to. I've been shooting it quite frequently, and I've added a houge grip wrap that really helped out (otherwise the sharp cuts in the grip really dig into your hand).

    I've also had some problems with WWB through the PF-9 (FTF/FTE problems); however, I've never had a problem with rem UMC or my federal carry ammo.

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    Default Re: Scouting for a small framed 9mm..

    I love my G26 as well but for pocket carry it's a KelTec. I go with the .380 and believe the PF9 is to big for pocket carry but it fits everything your looking for and fits the price.

    However, I would agree with Steve NEPhila and say if your dad is a wheelgun guy then a 642 is perfect.

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    Default Re: Scouting for a small framed 9mm..

    Another vote for the PF-9. This is my first summer after owning it, and it's already by far my favorite warm weather gun. A great little gun for what it is.
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