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June 8th, 2010, 06:02 PM #1
Obama Moves to Silence Gun Groups and Other Political Opponents
http://capwiz.com/gunowners/issues/a...ertid=15121756Tuesday, June 8, 2010
Obama Moves to Silence Gun Groups and Other Political Opponents
-- Bill clears committee hurdle, going to the House floor soon
Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org
Fresh from his efforts to seize government control of the health services sector (ObamaCare) and the financial markets ("finance reform"), Barack Obama has a new priority: silence his political opposition.
As satisfying as it was for Obama to seize control of one-sixth of the economy, he has had to suffer protest from the "little people" (like us). So he is pushing the Orwellian "DISCLOSE" bill (HR 5175) to make sure gun groups and other pro-freedom forces cannot mobilize their members in the upcoming elections.
When Obama says "disclose," what he really means is "disclose gun group membership lists"
Not surprisingly, these efforts to shut down free speech don't apply to Obama allies, like Democratic-leaning labor unions. They only apply to groups which are not reliable Obama allies, like Gun Owners of America.
But, for those groups whose free speech is targeted for Obama's wrath under this bill, the consequences are severe:
* Under Title II of the bill, GOA (and other groups, as well as many bloggers) who merely mention public officials within 60 days of an election could be required to file onerous disclosures -- potentially including their membership lists.
* Also under Title II, GOA could be required to spend as much as half of the time of a 30-second ad on government-written disclosures.
* In addition, Sections 201 through 203 would potentially put the government's snooping eyes on any American who voices a political opinion, despite the fact that the Supreme Court, in Buckley v. Valeo, declared that Americans have a right to voice their opinion to an unlimited extent, if unconnected with a political campaign.
Here's an idea: If Obama is so irritated at the Supreme Court's defense of political free speech by groups like GOA, why doesn't he apply his sleazy new rules to his political allies, as well?
ACTION: Please urge your congressman to vote against the anti-gun HR 5175. This bill has moved out of committee and has now been placed on the House calendar.
You can use the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm to send a pre-written message to your Representative.
----- Pre-written letter -----
Dear Representative:
I urge you to oppose HR 5175, a bill that will deny the free speech rights of all Americans. Under Title II of this bill:
* Groups like Gun Owners of America (and other groups, as well as many bloggers) who merely mention public officials within 60 days of an election could be required to file onerous disclosures -- potentially including their membership lists -- even though the Supreme Court has previously ruled in NAACP v. Alabama that membership lists (like those of GOA's) are off limits to government control.
* Also, groups like GOA and the NRA could be required to spend as much as half of the time of a 30-second ad on government-written disclosures.
* In addition, Sections 201 through 203 would potentially put the government's snooping eyes on any American who voices a political opinion, despite the fact that the Supreme Court, in Buckley v. Valeo, declared that Americans have a right to voice their opinion to an unlimited extent, if unconnected with a political campaign.
Here's an idea: If Obama is so irritated at the Supreme Court's defense of political free speech by groups like GOA, why doesn't he apply the new rules in HR 5175 to his political allies (like the labor unions), as well?
Suffice it to say, if you care anything about the First or Second Amendments, you will vote against HR 5175. GOA will be scoring this vote on their rating of Congress.
Sincerely,
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June 8th, 2010, 06:13 PM #2
Just received from GOA: In the U.S. House of Reps. HR 5175
I have not had a chance to research this myself as of yet. But, if as described it is more onerous than the MaCain - Fiengold Election Finance Reform Law we so hated.
Obama Moves to Silence Gun Groups and Other Political Opponents
-- Bill clears committee hurdle, going to the House floor soon
Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org
Tuesday, June 8, 2010
Fresh from his efforts to seize government control of the health services sector (ObamaCare) and the financial markets ("finance reform"), Barack Obama has a new priority: silence his political opposition.
As satisfying as it was for Obama to seize control of one-sixth of the economy, he has had to suffer protest from the "little people" (like us). So he is pushing the Orwellian "DISCLOSE" bill (HR 5175) to make sure gun groups and other pro-freedom forces cannot mobilize their members in the upcoming elections.
When Obama says "disclose," what he really means is "disclose gun group membership lists"
Not surprisingly, these efforts to shut down free speech don't apply to Obama allies, like Democratic-leaning labor unions. They only apply to groups which are not reliable Obama allies, like Gun Owners of America.
But, for those groups whose free speech is targeted for Obama's wrath under this bill, the consequences are severe:
* Under Title II of the bill, GOA (and other groups, as well as many bloggers) who merely mention public officials within 60 days of an election could be required to file onerous disclosures -- potentially including their membership lists.
* Also under Title II, GOA could be required to spend as much as half of the time of a 30-second ad on government-written disclosures.
* In addition, Sections 201 through 203 would potentially put the government's snooping eyes on any American who voices a political opinion, despite the fact that the Supreme Court, in Buckley v. Valeo, declared that Americans have a right to voice their opinion to an unlimited extent, if unconnected with a political campaign.
Here's an idea: If Obama is so irritated at the Supreme Court's defense of political free speech by groups like GOA, why doesn't he apply his sleazy new rules to his political allies, as well?
ACTION: Please urge your congressman to vote against the anti-gun HR 5175. This bill has moved out of committee and has now been placed on the House calendar.
You can use the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm to send a pre-written message to your Representative.
----- Pre-written letter -----
Dear Representative:
I urge you to oppose HR 5175, a bill that will deny the free speech rights of all Americans. Under Title II of this bill:
* Groups like Gun Owners of America (and other groups, as well as many bloggers) who merely mention public officials within 60 days of an election could be required to file onerous disclosures -- potentially including their membership lists -- even though the Supreme Court has previously ruled in NAACP v. Alabama that membership lists (like those of GOA's) are off limits to government control.
* Also, groups like GOA and the NRA could be required to spend as much as half of the time of a 30-second ad on government-written disclosures.
* In addition, Sections 201 through 203 would potentially put the government's snooping eyes on any American who voices a political opinion, despite the fact that the Supreme Court, in Buckley v. Valeo, declared that Americans have a right to voice their opinion to an unlimited extent, if unconnected with a political campaign.
Here's an idea: If Obama is so irritated at the Supreme Court's defense of political free speech by groups like GOA, why doesn't he apply the new rules in HR 5175 to his political allies (like the labor unions), as well?
Suffice it to say, if you care anything about the First or Second Amendments, you will vote against HR 5175. GOA will be scoring this vote on their rating of Congress.
Sincerely,
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities".
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June 8th, 2010, 07:10 PM #3
Re: Obama Moves to Silence Gun Groups and Other Political Opponents
Also linked to here: http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2010...-lists-public/
Last edited by PA Traveler; June 8th, 2010 at 07:29 PM. Reason: My crappy typing.
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June 8th, 2010, 07:29 PM #4
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June 8th, 2010, 07:57 PM #5
Re: Obama Moves to Silence Gun Groups and Other Political Opponents
Anyone who thinks ZerO is not the biggest threat ever to America's liberty better wake up!
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June 8th, 2010, 08:07 PM #6
Re: Just received from GOA: In the U.S. House of Reps. HR 5175
emailed my rep.
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Re: Obama Moves to Silence Gun Groups and Other Political Opponents
Too bad this, once again, is a load of horse shit from GOA ... total tripe. Take the time to actually read the bill, I have.
More bullshit, from an organization that seems to enjoy spouting crap and bullshit just to fire up their members to donate more money.
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June 8th, 2010, 08:18 PM #8
Re: Just received from GOA: In the U.S. House of Reps. HR 5175
You know how bills get a title? Well, this one is called the... wait for it... wait for it...
"Democracy is Strengthened by Casting Light on Spending in Elections Act".
Why don't they call it the "Feed and Clothe Two Year Olds Who've Been Abandoned on the Side of the Road Act" ? Then put whatever the heck they want to in the bill. I'm planning the party, right now, for the day this fascist checks out of the white house.Tommy610, NRA Member, Romans 12:18
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June 8th, 2010, 08:42 PM #9
Re: Obama Moves to Silence Gun Groups and Other Political Opponents
I've merged the news section post with this one, as it properly belongs in the National law and politics section.
"Oderint Dum Metuant" - BMFH
"Tact is for people not witty enough to use sarcasm"
Note: any whingeing crazy that hits my PM inbox will be deleted without reply
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June 8th, 2010, 08:43 PM #10
Re: Obama Moves to Silence Gun Groups and Other Political Opponents
The bastard should be forcibly removed from the white-house.
And all his sympathizers deported to an island with hostile natives.Gott mit uns
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