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Thread: AR 15 pistol to SBR question
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May 28th, 2010, 11:34 PM #1Active Member
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AR 15 pistol to SBR question
So I think I want an SBR. I will start on the paperwork end of this very soon. My question is, can I just buy an AR 15 pistol now, and when my stamp arrives, can I put on a new buffer tube with stock and be done? I understand I would have to engrave the lower, but I could send it out while waiting for the stamp.
Am I missing something else? Seems to me that the above would work.
Another question, on the Form 1 it is asks for overall length. How can I answer that without violating the law? I mean, to get the length, I would have to put the tube with stock on it, and at that point I broke the law. Just lay it beside the pistol and get it fairly close? Seems to me, fairly close is kind of dangerous when dealing with ATF and NFA issues.
Suggestions are welcome.
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May 28th, 2010, 11:42 PM #2
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mine in blue, seems like you have it down pretty good though. Also be check out ithinkimamedic's sticky. http://forum.pafoa.org/nfa-class-3-t...xperience.html
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May 29th, 2010, 07:35 PM #3Active Member
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Re: AR 15 pistol to SBR question
Thanks XD
I read all the stickys on the NFA page. Good info there. When they say CLEO, do you know if the commander of the local State Police barracks counts? I dont have local police, only State Police. Sherriff is my other option I guess.
Can I ask you why you went with 10.5" barrel? Do you have silencer on it? I read that 10.5 is minimum barrel length if you are going to use a can. Just curious. I was looking at 7.5 or 8 inch barrels.
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May 30th, 2010, 06:06 AM #4
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Barrels that are shorter than 10.5" may not properly stabilize the bullets, increasing the chances of a baffle or end-cap strike. Short barrels also expose the can to higher pressure and erosion from the burning powder. Check out this thread by a large suppressor dealer on AR15.com: Running a can on your SBR AR? READ THIS!. Many suppressor manufacturers will not warranty cans used on barrels under 10.5".
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May 30th, 2010, 12:47 PM #5
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I can't say for sure if a PSP commander can sign or not, hopefully someone who does will be around to say. A few other options besides your CLEO are:
1. Local Sheriff
2. Local Judge that presides in Felony cases (a JP does not count)
3. Local District Attorney
4. Incorporation. Make a corporation where the owner of the NFA item is the corp, not you, thus no signatures(this does have its drawbacks, but not much)
5. Make a Trust where the trust is the entity that holds the item. See a lawyer on this to have itdone right, skip the $30 programs like Quicken and such, pay someone trained to make this legal document to make it right.
(copied from jaybell)
I went with 10.5 because it was the shortest I could find a can for without voiding the warranty/screwing it up.
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June 1st, 2010, 08:02 PM #6Active Member
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Re: AR 15 pistol to SBR question
So I hope some of the NFA experts read this. Another question on SBR.
So I* was at the local shop today and they have an 11" AR 15 pistol on the wall. I was gonna purchase it, but the shop owner tells me that once a lower is sold as a pistol, it has to stay a pistol? He said he doesnt think a pistol can be converted to an SBR once it has been a pistol. SO does anyone know the answer to this? Can an AR 15 off the rack be made into an SBR once the stamp is in hand and the engraving gets completed?
Dont want to buy this "pistol" if it cant be made into an SBR.
I have read up on SBR on this site and a couple other gun sites, and have not seen this mentioned before. Just a shop owner being conservative?
thanks
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June 1st, 2010, 08:09 PM #7
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June 1st, 2010, 09:09 PM #8Active Member
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Re: AR 15 pistol to SBR question
XD,
thanks again. I think you are right. I have been digging on the net all night, and have found a few sites that mention pistol to sbr. I think I am gonna go buy it tomorrow.
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June 1st, 2010, 10:04 PM #9
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XD45 is correct. Nothing wrong with it at all. Some prefer to do it that way so you can check functionality and build it up to what you want it to be before the F1 comes though.
"132 and Bush I've got him at gun point, OK gun point, 132 and bush, cover is code 3"
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