HIGH POWER RIFLE COMPETITION

[Hawk]

Another question...

the old M14s...the wooden stocks would swell and make them inaccurate in Vietnam...do I need to worry about that today? Or can I get a walnut stock?
long story short...

synthetic or wood?

Part of the process of making a M1A accurate is making sure the stock fits correctly (wood or plastic).

[Hawk]

Thanks for all the information so far...

my only question is regarding this quote...

I read over the NRA High Power Rifle Rules and I don't understand why an M1A STD, FL, or NM wouldn't qualify me for a Service Rifle category. Could you explain that one to me

High Power "Service Rifle" category is comprised of the AR platform only, It must meet the specs for that category (the rules list those). Everything else that doesn't meet those requirements are lumped into the "National Match" category.

[FC2TurboMSS]

High Power "Service Rifle" category is comprised of the AR platform only, It must meet the specs for that category (the rules list those). Everything else that doesn't meet those requirements are lumped into the "National Match" category.

Ok...
did something change then?
according to the NRA High Power Rifle Rules, revised January 2016, Section 3, para 3.1(b) a "Service Rifle" is "U.S. Rifle, Caliber 7.62mm M-14..." (a) is for the M1 Garand and (c) is for the M16...

It can be one of those 3 to be in the Service Rifle Category, as far as I can tell...
Are you talking about another organization who runs competitions?
Can you tell me where you're getting the info so I can check it out (I may be missing a whole slew of rules...lol)

[Xanathar]

The best thing to do is simply show up to a match with any rifle and enough ammo to shoot the course of fire. Most match directors will gladly work with you to get you shooting your first event with what you brought - and the other competitors can help provide additional information while you are standing around on the line or in the pits.

If you are free this weekend - Oct 15th 2016, New Holland has a High Power match with great match directors: http://www.nhrpc.org/highpower

As a match director (not High Power) all I ask is please bring your gear with you even if you are showing up just to watch. It is very, very common for the observer to say "I wish I would of brought my gear to shoot" after talking with a couple people or watching for 15 minutes.

[FC2TurboMSS]

thanks M8, I gotta work all weekend this week though.

[Hawk]

Ok...
did something change then?
according to the NRA High Power Rifle Rules, revised January 2016, Section 3, para 3.1(b) a "Service Rifle" is "U.S. Rifle, Caliber 7.62mm M-14..." (a) is for the M1 Garand and (c) is for the M16...

It can be one of those 3 to be in the Service Rifle Category, as far as I can tell...
Are you talking about another organization who runs competitions?
Can you tell me where you're getting the info so I can check it out (I may be missing a whole slew of rules...lol)

"Service Rifle" means different things depending on what rule section you are reading.
There are a ton of different competitions you can shoot in, you have to figure out which one you want to shoot in and depending on your selected platform if you are permitted to use it, and if so, what category you will be placed in.

NRA High Power ATC matches (the most popular) are shot with the AR platform, yes you can shoot them with other rifles. In that specific match their are two categories to compete in, "Service Rifle" and "National Match". To qualify to shoot in "Service Rifle" you need to shoot a AR that meets the requirements, if the rifle doesn't meet those requirements (as in a M1A) you will be put into the National Match group.

[FC2TurboMSS]

Thanks Hawk...great info.
Like I said, I'm not new to shooting at all, just new to competition shooting.
I know the M1A isn't the ideal platform, but its what I want to excell at using.

Now...
Lol...
How do I
A: Check fitment of my stock?
and
B: Repair poor fitment?

Given the costs of a good shooting gun (the Fulton Armory has my eye) and my secondary desire for the M1A, I'm going to go with a Springfield M1A STD to start. As I progress I'll spring for the FA option later

Is a synthetic stock easier to "fix" than a walnut one? Or does it not matter?

[Hawk]

Thanks Hawk...great info.
Like I said, I'm not new to shooting at all, just new to competition shooting.
I know the M1A isn't the ideal platform, but its what I want to excell at using.

Now...
Lol...
How do I
A: Check fitment of my stock?
and
B: Repair poor fitment?

Given the costs of a good shooting gun (the Fulton Armory has my eye) and my secondary desire for the M1A, I'm going to go with a Springfield M1A STD to start. As I progress I'll spring for the FA option later

Is a synthetic stock easier to "fix" than a walnut one? Or does it not matter?

I'll get you started...http://lmgtfy.com/?q=accurizing+m1a

[FC2TurboMSS]

holy crap!

you realize you just opened up a whole new set of questions right?

thanks!

[Rosco the Iroc]

You can also shoot your M1A in sanctioned High Power or CMP matches. You won't be competing in the "Service Rifle" category, you'll be thrown in with the "Match Rifle" competitors (the guys shooting Space Guns and other rifles that don't meet the requirements of "Service Rifle".

WRONG

6.1.2 M14 Type Rifles
The rifle must be an M14 rifle that was issued by the U.S. Armed Forces or a
commercial rifle of the same type and caliber. The following specific rules
apply:
 The rifle must be chambered for the 7.62 mm NATO cartridge (.308
Winchester).
 The rifle must have a trigger pull of at least 4.5 pounds.
 No alteration or modification may change the external configuration of
the rifle.
 Internal modifications may be made to improve functioning and accuracy.
A special match barrel may be installed. Synthetic materials may be
applied to the interior of the stock to improve the bedding.
 No modification may interfere with the original functioning of the rifle and
its safety devices.
 Rear sight windage and elevation adjustments may be modified to allow
finer adjustments.
 The dimensions of the rear sight aperture (internal diameter) and the
front sight post (width) may vary from standard military dimensions. The
rear sight hood diameter may not be longer than 0.70” or larger than
0.50” in diameter. The rear sight aperture may have a fixed, non

adjustable round, square or rectangular aperture insert. A corrective lens
or multi-focal lens system may be inserted in the rear sight hood.
 Stock dimensions must comply with original stock dimensions, except
that stocks may be no more than 2 inches wide at a point immediately to
the rear of the front band, no more than 2.5 inches wide at the front and
rear of the receiver, and have a continuous taper from receiver to front
band. The width at the receiver may be carried through to the butt plate.
 The hinged butt plate may only be used in the folded position.
 Stocks may have any color. Metals may have any finish. Metal
components may be either steel or aluminum alloy.
 Magazine capacity may not exceed 20 rounds. All M14 or similar
commercial rifles must be used with full-length 10 or 20 round capacity
magazines. Magazines with a maximum capacity of 10 rounds may be
used, provided the length of the magazine box is the same as the
standard service 20-round magazine.
 Vented barrel extensions with the same external dimensions as the M14
flash suppressor, but without the bayonet lug, may be installed. A muzzle
brake designed to reduce recoil is not permitted.

Tough not the best- a stock/unmodded M1A DOES qualify for both NRA/CMP service rifle matches.
Go to the match with it and min 3 mags and a good sling. Get some dope and learn how it runs.
See other peoples gear.
Like it and maybe you can follow me to Quantico and shoot some real CMP matches inc EIC.