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January 15th, 2012, 01:05 AM #41
Re: If an officer asks to see your weapon?
The problem with admitting that you are armed is the fear of it leading to violations of your rights such as searches and extended detention.
The police are legally allowed to ask you anything they want to, any time they want to. Simply asking a question is not a violation of your rights or the law. Hell, its not even illegal for them to lie and tell you that you must answer their questions. Its up to you to not answer the questions. You have to draw the line, not them.Last edited by ray h; January 15th, 2012 at 01:10 AM.
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January 15th, 2012, 01:38 AM #42Grand Member
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Re: If an officer asks to see your weapon?
Regarding the legality of being required to exit a vehicle during a traffic stop, which was discussed somewhere in this thread, see Pennsylvania v. Mimms, which held that an order to exit a vehicle during a lawful traffic stop is "reasonable" (and so constitutional despite the fourth amendment).
Regarding lying, I can't offer anything immediately re: lying to state LEOs (the most obvious possibility appears to only cover written statements), but for federal officers I believe the relevant statute is 18 USC Sec. 1001. See also Martha Stewart and Scooter Libby, two notable figures successfully prosecuted for making unsworn false statements to federal investigators.I am not a lawyer. Nothing I say or write is legal advice.
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January 15th, 2012, 01:48 AM #43
Re: If an officer asks to see your weapon?
The question that comes to mind with the issue of lying to the officer about having a gun on your person....
Terry requires one to be armed AND dangerous....
Would the courts look at lying about being armed as making one "dangerous" per Terry?
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January 15th, 2012, 01:49 AM #44
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January 15th, 2012, 02:09 AM #45
Re: If an officer asks to see your weapon?
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January 15th, 2012, 02:15 AM #46
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January 15th, 2012, 02:37 AM #47
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January 15th, 2012, 10:51 AM #48Active Member
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Re: If an officer asks to see your weapon?
Every time they get out of the car they have to expect a worst case scenario. Letting them know is my way of making them feel easier about the situation. I know I don’t have to, I choose to.
I have a few friends and family that are in the FOP. I have never seen a negative from letting them know and won’t change it till I do.
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January 15th, 2012, 12:13 PM #49
Re: If an officer asks to see your weapon?
The negative is that you are giving up your rights. By turning on lights and opening windows you are allowing police to visually search your property.
Now I understand that is your choice. But for many of us even though we have nothing to hide, we will not surrender our rights and especially not to simply make some cop 'comfortable'.
As far as I'm concerned, the cop needs to make *me* feel comfortable. He's the one with the badge, the legal force to do almost anything he wants and a whole bunch more buddies who will take his side. No, I won't surrender my rights simply to show cops that I'm friendly. That doesn't mean that I wouldn't have a cop as a friend. It just means that I didn't get stopped because the cop was feeling lonely and needed someone to talk to.Help us restore election integrity in PA. Join PA Voters United
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January 15th, 2012, 12:20 PM #50
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