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December 21st, 2017, 03:39 PM #11Junior Member
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December 21st, 2017, 04:04 PM #12
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December 21st, 2017, 05:09 PM #13
Re: Paperwork needed to transfer a pistol?
Ah, young padawan, you begin to see the issue. You're coming at it from the wrong direction, however.
Nope, not yet...
Now *you* are beginning to see. Again, however, from the wrong direction.
A saw is a tool.
A wrench is a tool.
A hammer is a tool. One, BTW, that is used in more murders than all long guns COMBINED.
A gun is a tool. Why - under the Constitution - does .gov feel they have any say in private commerce between individuals related to this tool when they don't say anything about the others?
Your statements *should* be:
and
To answer badfish's revised question: because it would be silly. There's no point.
To answer RockIslands revised question: they shouldn't be, because there's no point, but we let it get that way.
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December 21st, 2017, 05:25 PM #14
Re: Paperwork needed to transfer a pistol?
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December 21st, 2017, 05:46 PM #15
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December 21st, 2017, 05:59 PM #16
Re: Paperwork needed to transfer a pistol?
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December 21st, 2017, 06:20 PM #17
Re: Paperwork needed to transfer a pistol?
Call ahead before arriving at the FFL to verify they will do this, but here's our process at Washington County Machine Guns:
1: Half brother arrives with the pistol and a copy of your FL DL.
2: We log it in from you.
3: He fills out an ATF 4473 and PA Application/Record of Sale Form (SP4-113).
4: We run the PICS check.
5: If he passes, he takes the item home.
The firearm is now legally transferred from you to him and is logged in the PA "database".Washington County Machine Guns & Tactical Range -- CMP Affiliated Club -- FFL 07 / FFL 10 / FEL 20 / SOT 02 / ITAR
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December 21st, 2017, 06:22 PM #18Junior Member
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Re: Paperwork needed to transfer a pistol?
Ok, here's what happened. I transported the gun to PA from Florida, which is comepletely legal. I sold him the gun. Only ever having done resident to resident gun sales in the past, I wasn't aware of the stipulations. I most definitely should have looked up the laws regarding this and looking back, I don't know why I didn't as I am always sure to follow the letter of the law. My bad. Lesson learned.
My brother was using a rental car for a few days while his was in the shop. He left the gun in the rental car when he returned it. (Yes, I know, irresponsible). The rental company turned it over to police as is their policy.
I don't remember what department handled it but they were courteous and professional. The "issue" arose when they looked up the serial number. It showed up as being registered in Florida or what have you. They would have easily returned it to him right away except for this issue.
To shorten the rest of the story, I faxed them the paperwork I had on it showing it was mine and they did their obligatory ATF inquiry. Seven to ten days later, my brother got the gun back and the evidence technician handling the case informed us of the proper way to transfer possession.
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December 21st, 2017, 11:29 PM #19
Re: Paperwork needed to transfer a pistol?
It's a Federal crime to directly transfer a firearm (handgun or long gun) from one person to the resident of another state. There's no "half-brother exception", unless the transferor died first and it's being inherited.
The police in your situation were being nice, and ignoring the violation of Federal law. They also ignored the violation of Pennsylvania law, which prohibits direct person to person handgun transfers (but allows direct long gun transfers between PA residents.) You got lucky. There could have been serious criminal charges.Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
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December 21st, 2017, 11:51 PM #20Grand Member
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Re: Paperwork needed to transfer a pistol?
I've sold a few pistols in PA. I've never had to show anything for the gun being sold. Just my drivers license. Also sold a rifle in Florida. Again, never had to show anything. If you don't have Florida carry permit, make sure you have gun locked in trunk until sale. IANAL, just my experience.
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