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  1. #1
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    Default Spoke to a Game Comsission Officer today

    They were out in full force today at the Sampson Road range in Erie. About four Officers were there "greeting" everyone and reminding us about the rules of the range. He really kept hammering home the only 3 rounds in a rifle topic. You know, because all of those evil "assault rifles" are ruining the range. I asked him what about a Garand that holds 8 rounds in a enbloc clip. I don't know if he knew what a enbloc clip or a Garand were but he said it's against the rules. Also of note, military surplus FMJ ammo is also illegal to use on their ranges..
    "The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil but, because of the people who do nothing about them."
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    Default Re: Spoke to a Game Comsission Officer today

    Not that the 3 round rule makes any sense whatsoever but what is their issue with mil surplus ammo?

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    Default Re: Spoke to a Game Comsission Officer today

    I personally think the range rule sucks ass. I see more damage from shotgun on the pistol ranges than anything else up my way. Why don't they enforce and restrict shotgun usage on the pistol range instead of restricting the number of rounds through a rifle?

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    Default Re: Spoke to a Game Comsission Officer today

    Don't these guys have any thing better to do like looking for pot or under sized trout?

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    Default Re: Spoke to a Game Comsission Officer today

    Quote Originally Posted by stimpy17 View Post
    Don't these guys have any thing better to do like looking for pot or under sized trout?
    Nope.

    I once pulled the head off a stuffed deer decoy they had set up in the woods to try to catch road hunters. They set it up 15 yards off the road with the deer's head facing away from traffic. When I pulled the head off about 5 officers came rushing and when they asked "why" I just told them: "I thought some a$$hat was just playing a joke". When they asked if it looked real I just said: "Um yeah"

    Like any deer would look the other way at 15 yards from an idling truck.

    Lycannosensethrope

    I taught Chuck Norris to bump-fire.

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    Default Re: Spoke to a Game Comsission Officer today

    Milsurp ammo is NOT illegal to use on the ranges, only armor piercing and a few others...........

    § 135.181. Rifle and handgun ranges.
    (a) General provisions. In addition to § 135.2 (relating to unlawful actions) and except as provided in § 135.182 (relating to Ranges, State Game Lands No. 176), the following pertain to lands under Commission ownership, lease or jurisdiction, designated as rifle or handgun ranges:

    (1) Rifle and handgun ranges are open from 8 a.m., prevailing time, until sunset Monday through Saturday and from 12 noon to sunset Sundays, unless otherwise posted; except the Sunday immediately preceding the regular antlered and antlerless deer seasons and the regular bear season, when the hours are 8 a.m. to sunset.

    (2) A range may be reserved for exclusive use by an organized group from January 1 through October 1. An organized group desiring to reserve the range shall make necessary arrangements through the appropriate regional director or a designee at least 20 days in advance.

    (3) An individual may not use the range when in use on days when it is reserved by an organized group.

    (4) An individual or an organized group using the range is responsible for keeping the area clean and free of debris, and may not discard, deposit, leave or throw litter except in approved refuse containers. Range users shall remove targets from range backboards when shooting is completed and prior to leaving the range.

    (5) The Commission is not responsible for anyone injured on the range. An individual using Commission owned ranges does so at his own risk and assumes all responsibility for injuries to a person or property caused by or to him.

    (6) When more than one person is using the range, a range officer shall be designated.

    (7) An individual under 16 years of age may not use the range unless accompanied by a person 18 years of age or older.

    (8) The appropriate regional director or designee may close a range by posting signs to that effect.

    (b) Prohibited acts. At a rifle and handgun range located on land under Commission ownership, lease or jurisdiction, except when authorized by the appropriate regional director or a designee for military or law enforcement training, it is unlawful to:

    (1) Possess a loaded firearm, except at an established shooting station on the firing line.

    (2) Discharge a firearm, except from an established shooting station on the firing line at a paper target placed on a permanent target backboard.

    (3) Discharge armor piercing, incendiary, explosive, tracer or multiple projectile ammunition.

    (4) Be intoxicated, use or possess an intoxicating beverage or controlled substance on the range.

    (5) Possess an automatic weapon.

    (6) Possess, load or discharge a firearm that contains more than three rounds of single projectile ammunition, except as provided in subsection (c).

    (7) Shoot clay birds anywhere except areas designated by the Director by signs stating that clay bird shooting is permitted.

    (c) Exceptions for a handgun range. At a Commission range specifically designated as a handgun range, it is permitted for an individual to load and discharge a handgun containing a maximum of six rounds of single projectile ammunition at any one time. Other rules and regulations pertaining to shooting ranges under Commission ownership, lease or jurisdiction shall be in effect.

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    Default Re: Spoke to a Game Comsission Officer today

    multiple projectile ammunition.
    Is this not what a shotgun shoots other than using rifle slugs?

    So much for taking your turkey shotgun to do a pattern test at SGL range.


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    Default Re: Spoke to a Game Comsission Officer today

    wow.

    if in Mercer county, come use my range, no rules other than the basic safety rules.
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    Default Re: Spoke to a Game Comsission Officer today

    The rules I posted are for ALL SGL ranges.

    Yes, it is illegal to shoot a shotgun on a SGL range.

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    Default Re: Spoke to a Game Comsission Officer today

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve in PA View Post
    The rules I posted are for ALL SGL ranges.

    Yes, it is illegal to shoot a shotgun on a SGL range.
    Unless you're using slugs... That is perfectly fine...
    I like guns... And boobs...

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