Does PA require the FFL to give a copy of completed transfer form of a rifle

[vinnyg101]

Recently I purchased a rifle online and had a FFL complete the transfer into my name. After transfer I left the store and realized at home that I did not get a copy of the transfer form from the FFL.

When I asked him him for a copy he told me that I don't need it.

Did not seem right to me. Does PA require a copy to be given to buyer/transferee?

[Rosco the Iroc]

State and fed law does not req it. But it also does not req the FFL to keep it* we have our own copies and no point for them to make them other wise.

*a copy for you

[knight0334]

No. There is NO carbon copy for the federal 4473 form. If you want a copy, and if the FFL has a copier, you may see if he'll make you one.

However, that is pointless because only the FFL keeps copies of the 4473 and it is by no means proof of ownership because long guns can be subsequently transferred between private parties of the same state. And then, the FFL can destroy the 4473 forms that are over 20 years old if he chooses to.

[raxar]

No. There is NO carbon copy for the federal 4473 form. If you want a copy, and if the FFL has a copier, you may see if he'll make you one.

However, that is pointless because only the FFL keeps copies of the 4473 and it is by no means proof of ownership because long guns can be subsequently transferred between private parties of the same state. And then, the FFL can destroy the 4473 forms that are over 20 years old if he chooses to.

None of which stops the ATF from going through and making a copy of every single 4473 an FFL has on record.

[jthrelf]

You typically only get a copy of the PSP handgun form.

[knight0334]

None of which stops the ATF from going through and making a copy of every single 4473 an FFL has on record.

And which they don't do unless they suspect some fishy shit going on.

[Emptymag]

You typically only get a copy of the PSP handgun form.

Correct. Because it's not the same thing as when you purchase a long gun.
No copy of anything when you purchase a long gun other than your receipt.

[Wildbill990]

None of which stops the ATF from going through and making a copy of every single 4473 an FFL has on record.

Yeah, that’s not how that works.

[JustinR]

And which they don't do unless they suspect some fishy shit going on.

Or the FFL shuts down and sends his bound book to ATF

[Rosco the Iroc]

ALSO keep in mind there is no law that says the FFL CAN'T make a copy for the buyer on request.