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    Default Homeowner w/ gun, shot by police. Friendly fire or Gross negligence?

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/phoenix-fam...ory?id=8756441

    When Tony Arambula managed to corner an armed intruder in his son's bedroom he expected police to come to his aid.
    Instead, a Phoenix police officer confused Arambula for the intruder and shot him six times before realizing his mistake, a moment captured on the 911 call with a simple "F**k."

    Even after realizing their mistake, Arambula said he was treated roughly, being dragged out of the house and transported briefly on the hood of a police car.

    Now Arambula, 35, who survived but faces a lifetime of pain, is suing the city of Phoenix and the officers who responded to his house that night.

    The lawsuit, filed in Maricopa County Court, alleges that Phoenix Police Officer Brian Lilly and his on-scene supervisor, Sgt. Sean Coutts, quickly conspired to cover up the mistake, not realizing that 911 was still recording Arambula's call for help.


    Lots more info available on the above wedsite.

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    Default Re: Homeowner w/ gun, shot by police. Friendly fire or Gross negligence?

    This Story was featured on Fox News the other night. They had the 911
    tapes and interview with the wife and the attorney for the family. I would
    gather from the information provided, that eventually the Phoenix P.D. is
    not going to be able to walk away unscathed. Especially the part where
    the officer who did the shooting exclaimed that he "blanked" up. If they
    did try to "cover up" to protect their asses, they should be fired and heads
    should roll up the chain of command. Also if it appears that this would be
    going against the Police and the City of Phoenix you better believe there will
    be an "offer" on the table, to avoid the civil litigation and the award outcome.
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    Default Re: Homeowner w/ gun, shot by police. Friendly fire or Gross negligence?

    Quote Originally Posted by FUNDAMENTALS View Post
    This Story was featured on Fox News the other night. They had the 911
    tapes and interview with the wife and the attorney for the family. I would
    gather from the information provided, that eventually the Phoenix P.D. is
    not going to be able to walk away unscathed.
    Especially the part where
    the officer who did the shooting exclaimed that he "blanked" up. If they
    did try to "cover up" to protect their asses, they should be fired and heads
    should roll up the chain of command. Also if it appears that this would be
    going against the Police and the City of Phoenix you better believe there will
    be an "offer" on the table, to avoid the civil litigation and the award outcome.
    This is a dupe thread... I had the same thoughts on the part I highlighted but it appears they were cleared in some capacity. It appears to be cut and dry, but apparently not as much as is needed to prosecute...

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    Default Re: Homeowner w/ gun, shot by police. Friendly fire or Gross negligence?

    That's ridiculous to read about, especially if they tried to cover their asses.

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    I will be awaiting additional information on this case. I am sure the astute
    legal members of the bar know that this can develop in many ways in
    civil litigation. Excessive use of force ,etc. One resource that carries
    case law which shows the various circumstances is the organization:
    AELE WEBSITE.(Americans For Effective Law Enforcement). There is
    a myriad of case law out there, even a violation of his civil rights.
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    Default Re: Homeowner w/ gun, shot by police. Friendly fire or Gross negligence?

    they have not been cleared of any charges and charges will be filed later this week . my source is a federal leo who works that area. these guys need to be burried under the jail
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    Default Re: Homeowner w/ gun, shot by police. Friendly fire or Gross negligence?

    does the thread title really say "friendly fire"? god I hope that's a joke

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    Default Re: Homeowner w/ gun, shot by police. Friendly fire or Gross negligence?

    below is another link


    http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/0...r_Shooting.htm


    Family Says 911 Tape Caught Cops Planning Cover-Up After Shooting
    By JAMIE ROSS
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    PHOENIX (CN) - A homeowner says a Phoenix police officer shot him six times in the back during a 911 home-invasion call, and the 911 tape recorded the officer's partner saying, "That's all right. Don't worry about it. I got your back. ... We clear?" The family says the officers were not aware that the 911 call was still recording as they spoke about covering up the shooting.
    In their complaint in Maricopa County Court, Anthony and Lesley Arambula say an armed intruder "crashed through the front window" of their home on Sept. 17, 2008 and ran into one of their son's bedrooms.
    Anthony, worried about his son who was still in his bedroom, says he "held the intruder calmly at gunpoint" and called 911.
    Phoenix Police officers already in the neighborhood heard the crash of the Arambulas' window. When they approached the house, Lesley says, she told Sgt. Sean Coutts that her husband was inside holding the intruder at gunpoint. Lesley says Coutts failed to pass on that information to the two other officers.
    Inside the house, the Arambulas say, Officer Brian Lilly shot Anthony six times in the back while he was still on the phone with the 911 operator - twice when he was on the ground.
    The officers ran into the bedroom after Anthony told them, "You just killed ... you just killed the homeowner. The bad guy is in there."
    The complaint states that Officer Lilly "admitted that it was only after Tony was laying, bullet-ridden, on the ground that he assessed the situation. The 911 tape continued to record what happened even after Officer Lilly unloaded his weapon into Tony, including Officer Lilly's post-shooting, one-word 'assessment': 'Fuck.'
    "Tony believed he was going to die; the 911 tape records his plaintive goodbye to his family: '... I love you ... I love you.' Then Tony made what he believed was a dying request to the officers; he did not want his young family to see him shot and bloodied. Officers callously ignored his request and painfully dragged Tony by his injured leg, through the home and out to his backyard patio, where they left him bloodied and shot right in front of Lesley, Matthew and Zachary."
    The Arambulas say the officers later dragged Anthony onto gravel, then put him on top of the hot hood of a squad car, and "drove the squad car down the street with Tony lying on top, writhing in pain."
    According to the complaint, Lilly can be heard on the 911 tape telling Coutts, "We fucked up."
    Lilly says on the tape that he did not know where Anthony's gun was when he shot him and that he "opened fire because he heard loud noises and saw someone who looked like he might be the 'Hispanic' male they were pursuing" before getting to the Arambulas' house, according to the complaint.
    The complaint states: "Sgt. Coutts knew that officers has just shot up and likely killed an innocent homeowner and the husband of Lesley, with whom he had spoken before entering the home, instead of the armed intruder. Sgt. Coutts was quick to commence the cover-up of their terrible mistake. Sgt. Coutts asked Office Lilly where Tony's gun was at the time Officer Lilly had opened fire on Tony. Officer Lilly admitted that he did not know where Tony's gun was: 'I don't know. I heard screaming and I fired.'"
    Lilly later told a police internal affairs investigator that Anthony had pointed his gun in his direction, "in the 'ready' position," the complaint states. But Anthony Arambula says he was facing away from the officers, who could not have even seen his gun.
    The complaint continues: "Still not knowing that he is being recorded n the 911 tape, Sgt. Coutts interrupted Officer Lilly's admission and apology with his assurance that the cover-up would commence: 'That's all right. Don't worry about it. I got your back. ... We clear?'"
    After the shooting, the Arambulas say, the Phoenix Police Department treated them "like suspects in a drug bust," denying Lesley, Michael and Zachary information about Anthony's condition and denying friends and family members access to him at the hospital.
    Anthony Arambula survived, but continues to suffer pain, which he expects will last for the rest of his life.
    The City of Phoenix and Officer Dzenan Ahmetovic also are named as defendants.
    The Arambulas seek punitive damages for gross negligence, civil rights violations, failure to supervise, excessive force, deliberate indifference to medical needs, false arrest, and emotional distress. They are represented by Michael Manning with Stinson Morrison Hecker.
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    Default Re: Homeowner w/ gun, shot by police. Friendly fire or Gross negligence?

    already been posted a week ago, and being discussed here:
    http://forum.pafoa.org/national-11/7...-shooting.html
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