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February 25th, 2013, 11:16 PM #21
Re: Best ideas for security......
Get an alarm and get a dog. Cut lengths of wood to secure your window frames so they can't be pried open (window locks are easy broken). Maybe they sell something. Bars on the ground floor windows are awesome but might look out of place in the burbs.
Make sure your doors and frames are solid. Put your alarm company sticker on your front door.
Outdoor sensor lights are great.
All of this should secure you against all but the most determined burglars. First it's a bitch to get in (breaking a window or picking/drilling a lock), then there's an alarm to worry about, then there's a damn dog inside.
Not impenetrable but good enough with getting into Home Alone bear trap territory.
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February 25th, 2013, 11:19 PM #22Banned
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Re: Best ideas for security......
Forgot one of the most important things:
Make sure your locks are bump-proof.
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February 26th, 2013, 01:35 AM #23Grand Member
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Re: Best ideas for security......
If we showed you they wouldn't be very secret, now would they?
Another piece I forget to mention. Picking is easy and bumping is even easier sometimes. Again, if you grab it off the shelf in Home Depot you can expect that it is easily defeated. Talk to a local professional locksmith about what types of locks to buy.
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Re: Best ideas for security......
You forget/overlooked the most important one- the big bad German sheperd Dog, he could have saved you a ton of money- oh well at least you dont have to walk the cctv system.
Also about 90% of home theft/gun theft are inside jobs so dont get over complacent on your security system, still keep an eye out on the "little guy on your little league team"
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February 26th, 2013, 02:24 AM #25Active Member
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Anybody whose had the pleasure of going to law school I'm sure has had to read Katko v. Briney in their tort class. I posted the wiki, but basically a farmer had an unoccupied house on his farm that was the target of repeat burglaries. The farmer having enough set up a shotgun to be fired when the door opened. Sure enough a burglar came and got shot (non-fatal the shotgun was aimed at the legs). The burglar sued and was successful in his tort claim for battery. In the courts words "the law has always placed a higher value upon human safety than upon mere rights in property."
Nobody here is trying to justify this type of rationale or care about the welfare of criminals, but rather save you from a legal nightmare if something were to happen. Not to mention the unintended risk to first responders. There's plenty of ways to secure your home legally without worrying about losing everything in a judgment from the bastard who tried to rob you.
Wiki of Katko v. Briney
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katko_v._Briney
Also got to love Briney, when asked if he'd do anything differently he said "There's one thing I'd do different, though, I'd have aimed that gun a few feet higher."
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February 26th, 2013, 06:01 AM #26Banned
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The problem is the traps would trigger indiscriminately. I don't think you would want to your trap to go off at the front door spraying the local girl scouts just trying to sell you cookies.
Its dangerous, and to be honest. Not that necessary. I don't think the protection it could in theory provide out weighs the risk that it brings to causing harm to innocent people.
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February 26th, 2013, 07:18 AM #27Member
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I find it interesting that the guy that mentions using an automated OC/pepper spray system gets jumped on, meanwhile multiple folks keep mentioning "big and bad" dogs seemingly as an acceptable alternative. Think there wouldn't be a law suit if your dog bit ("attacked") a BG?? <shrug>
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Re: Best ideas for security......
If a criminal can beat my security system, then get by my two hungery Danes, go unseen by the "old ball and chain", and find where the gun safes and valuables are hidden and open the safes without alerting the dogs or Grammy their welcome to what ever they find and can get out the door with.
The oracle is in. Age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill!!
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