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  1. #161
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    Default Re: Vehicle Stop and detention by LEO due to inability to verify serial number

    Quote Originally Posted by WCMG View Post
    "They're not after me for any reason." - said every wrongly convicted person in prison.

    Funny thing about rights, it's a slippery slope when you start complying with "Show me your papers" and then one day you loose the right not to comply.

    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


    -- MARTIN NIEMÖLLER
    "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to WCMG again."
    --ET

  2. #162
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    Default Re: Vehicle Stop and detention by LEO due to inability to verify serial number

    If the victim of this vehicle stop doesn’t make an official complaint with PSP internal affairs Unit or as suggested seek legal advice to determine if something could be done via civil court, this crap is going to continue.

  3. #163
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    Default Re: Vehicle Stop and detention by LEO due to inability to verify serial number

    Quote Originally Posted by ett View Post
    "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to WCMG again."
    Ditto.

  4. #164
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    Default Re: Vehicle Stop and detention by LEO due to inability to verify serial number

    Quote Originally Posted by t1066 View Post
    Ditto.
    I got him.

  5. #165
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    Default Re: Vehicle Stop and detention by LEO due to inability to verify serial number

    Quote Originally Posted by unclejumbo View Post
    If it appears you're trying to hide something like the smell of marijuana or booze, we're going to make sure we can get a good smell to check. There are a lot of tells on traffic stops that come from the sense of smell. If your car smells like dryer sheets were used as upholstery, it's often a sign that you're trying to cover the smell of marijuana.
    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    Yeah, I saw where common courtesy got me on my last stop.
    FYI Road Apple is not a good cover scent. We can smell right through that shit!
    Aggies Coach Really ??? Take off the tin foil bro.

  6. #166
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    Default Re: Vehicle Stop and detention by LEO due to inability to verify serial number

    Quote Originally Posted by unclejumbo View Post
    You call it vindictive pricks, we call it doing our jobs. If it appears you're trying to hide something like the smell of marijuana or booze, we're going to make sure we can get a good smell to check. There are a lot of tells on traffic stops that come from the sense of smell. If your car smells like dryer sheets were used as upholstery, it's often a sign that you're trying to cover the smell of marijuana.
    Biggest "tell" is cops defaulting to BS excuse any time they want as to there reasoning to search cars or harass drivers without any repercussions when they are wrong

  7. #167
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    Default Re: Vehicle Stop and detention by LEO due to inability to verify serial number

    I remember years ago reading a story about how back in the 60s and 70s the LSD dealers would use laundry detergent boxes to transport their wares. They kept a load of dirty laundry in the car to make it look legit.
    Gotta stay awake, gotta try and shake off this creeping malaise

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    Default Re: Vehicle Stop and detention by LEO due to inability to verify serial number

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillySoldier View Post
    Biggest "tell" is cops defaulting to BS excuse any time they want as to there reasoning to search cars or harass drivers without any repercussions when they are wrong
    Yup, heard a lot of caterwauling from bad guys about how it wasn't fair that they got caught.
    "A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself"

    "He created the game, played the game, and lost the game.... All under his own terms, by his own doing." JW34

    "Tolerance is the lube that helps slip the dildo of dysfunction into the ass of a civilized society." Plato

  9. #169
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    Default Re: Vehicle Stop and detention by LEO due to inability to verify serial number

    Quote Originally Posted by unclejumbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PhillySoldier View Post
    Biggest "tell" is cops defaulting to BS excuse any time they want as to there reasoning to search cars or harass drivers without any repercussions when they are wrong
    Yup, heard a lot of caterwauling from bad guys about how it wasn't fair that they got caught.
    I have only smelled weed a handful of times, and only seen it twice (from several yards). Never touched the stuff.

    (Only heavy drugs I've *ever* had were morphine once and Demerol a couple times, all in hospital settings.)

    I don't drink.

    Any cop claiming he smelled something out my window that gave Probable Cause would be lying through his teeth.

    YMMV

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    Default Re: Vehicle Stop and detention by LEO due to inability to verify serial number

    My car still has old man smell from the previous owner.

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