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August 16th, 2018, 08:41 AM #1
Three in a row! HB 2597, HB 2598, HB 2599
Looks like Representative Tai (who in hell ever he might be) is trying for a hat trick. I think all of these need to be opposed.
Here's the bill information:
Regular Session 2017-2018
House Bill 2597
Short Title: An Act amending Title 18 (Crimes and Offenses) of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes, in firearms and other dangerous articles, providing for safe storage of a firearm when residing with a person not to possess a firearm.
Prime Sponsor: Representative TAI
Last Action: Referred to JUDICIARY, Aug. 15, 2018 [House]
Memo: Safe Storage of Firearms
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...type=B&bn=2597
Regular Session 2017-2018
House Bill 2598
Short Title: An Act amending Title 18 (Crimes and Offenses) of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes, in firearms and other dangerous articles, providing for safe storage of a firearm when not in use.
Prime Sponsor: Representative TAI
Last Action: Referred to JUDICIARY, Aug. 15, 2018 [House]
Memo:
Safe Storage of Firearms
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...type=B&bn=2598Regular Session 2017-2018
House Bill 2599
Short Title: An Act amending Title 18 (Crimes and Offenses) of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes, in firearms and other dangerous articles, providing for civil liability of firearm owner for loss or theft.
Prime Sponsor: Representative TAI
Last Action: Referred to JUDICIARY, Aug. 15, 2018 [House]
Memo: Safe Storage of Firearms
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS/...type=B&bn=2599
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities".
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August 16th, 2018, 09:02 AM #2
Re: Three in a row! HB 2597, HB 2598, HB 2599
Triple Scumbag
Retired US Army
NRA Life Member, GOA, USCCA
"Artificial intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity"
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August 16th, 2018, 09:56 AM #3
Re: Three in a row! HB 2597, HB 2598, HB 2599
You can already be prosecuted under federal law, which would be a felony, if you do not keep your guns locked up from prohibited persons that you live with.
HB2597 just codifies it on the state level, and provides you with some statutory exemptions and defenses. ...which isn't a bad thing.
If the state prosecutes you, they are less likely to hand you over to the feds for prosecution. And the state version has S1 and M3 penalties for 1st and 2nd offenses, versus the federal 10 year felony.
HB2597 gets a YES from me(with some minor editing). The other two, NO.RIP: SFN, 1861, twoeggsup, Lambo, jamesjo, JayBell, 32 Magnum, Pro2A, mrwildroot, dregan, Frenchy, Fragger, ungawa, Mtn Jack, Grapeshot, R.W.J., PennsyPlinker, Statkowski, Deanimator, roland, aubie515
Don't end up in my signature!
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August 16th, 2018, 10:08 AM #4Super Member
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Re: Three in a row! HB 2597, HB 2598, HB 2599
Helen Tai, rep of lefty 178th district, knows what is best for you. Because shut up.
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August 16th, 2018, 11:43 AM #5
Re: Three in a row! HB 2597, HB 2598, HB 2599
Those who signed on these bills and completely ignored the Constitution which they swore to uphold are knowingly taking a power they do not have.
An example should be made. Therefore they all should be hanged
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August 16th, 2018, 08:14 PM #6
Re: Three in a row! HB 2597, HB 2598, HB 2599
I wonder when they will introduce a bill providing criminal liability for car owners if their car is stolen and then involved in an accident?
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August 16th, 2018, 08:50 PM #7Super Member
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Re: Three in a row! HB 2597, HB 2598, HB 2599
Of course they won't, as we know. These bills are about creating pitfalls and financial liabilities for legal gun owners, so that the ownership of firearms becomes too expensive for most people. Legal gun owners get punished for the actions of criminals. The people who write and support these bills use the most insidious and deceptive methods to disarm all but the government, the elites and their protectors. The essence of tyranny. And they cloak their intentions in "reasonable" restrictions.
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August 17th, 2018, 04:47 PM #8
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August 17th, 2018, 10:21 PM #9
Re: Three in a row! HB 2597, HB 2598, HB 2599
This bill is one we could use for a trade-off. It really doesn't make things worse, if anything it makes things slightly better. Pro-gunners in the General Assembly should consider getting behind this and use it to negotiate a separate pure pro-gun bill, or pro-gun amendments to this bill.RIP: SFN, 1861, twoeggsup, Lambo, jamesjo, JayBell, 32 Magnum, Pro2A, mrwildroot, dregan, Frenchy, Fragger, ungawa, Mtn Jack, Grapeshot, R.W.J., PennsyPlinker, Statkowski, Deanimator, roland, aubie515
Don't end up in my signature!
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August 17th, 2018, 10:38 PM #10
Re: Three in a row! HB 2597, HB 2598, HB 2599
The Gun is the Badge of a Free Man
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