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May 25th, 2018, 05:45 PM #1Junior Member
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selling/buying a kit made gun
A local shop has an M1919 .30 cal Browning that was built as a semi-auto gun by "a local machinist".
I'm interested in the gun... It has a serial number on it from his build, and I'd be buying the gun from an FFL. The guy had made several of them over the years, but was getting older and had sold them to the shop.
What are the complications of buying a gun that was manufactured from a kit? I know you can make a gun for your own possession and there isn't any BATF paperwork, but what about selling that gun later? Does the gun have to have been registered with the BATF as being manufactured in order for it to be transferable? Is there any way to verify that it has been registered as being manufactured? And if it turns out to not have been handled properly from a paperwork point of view, who would face the legal jeopardy? The guy who made it, or would the violation be on the current owner?
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May 25th, 2018, 05:48 PM #2Grand Member
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Re: selling/buying a kit made gun
Doesnt need to be 'registered" as being made , just all the GCA/NFA rules apply like anything else.
pop the cover and check the sideplate and bolt assembly.
If it's older it might be ORF's setup or maybe, better yet KMP.
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May 25th, 2018, 08:20 PM #3
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May 25th, 2018, 08:41 PM #4Grand Member
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Re: selling/buying a kit made gun
Buy it the gun is going through an FFL. I would only be concerned with how I would feed my new child. come to think of it I may have some .308 links and cloths belts laying around. IANAL
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May 25th, 2018, 10:44 PM #5Grand Member
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Re: selling/buying a kit made gun
You can't build a gun to sell it because ATF says by doing that you're in a business and need the proper license. If you build a gun, then later decide to sell it, it's no different than selling any other gun. Some FFL's get worked up over a home build with no SN, but you don't even have that situation here. There are no legal concerns here OP.
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May 26th, 2018, 09:16 PM #6
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May 26th, 2018, 11:46 PM #7
Re: selling/buying a kit made gun
Where in the OP does it say that the guy "built them to sell them"?
Hint: NowhereI called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!
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May 27th, 2018, 07:36 AM #8Grand Member
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Re: selling/buying a kit made gun
Correct. Burden of proof would be on ATF. Were they built with the intent to sell? Did he build a few over years or decades, then just decide to sell? Or build 10 within a year, then sell a month later? If someone builds 50 from kits over his lifetime, then gets to a point where they can't be used, etc., they can be sold.
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May 27th, 2018, 12:03 PM #9Grand Member
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Re: selling/buying a kit made gun
This leads me to the fact that the guy could no longer handle the weight of the guns. I have had one and they are heavy. The fact that he was a machinist, would only leave me to believe the guns were built right. It does not appear to me he was manufacturing guns. I would buy it without hesitaton.
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May 27th, 2018, 09:11 PM #10Super Member
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Re: selling/buying a kit made gun
Another who agrees with those saying it's no big deal. You can sell ANY gun you have built so long as you have stamped/etched a serial number in the receiver. It's like selling any other firearm. However, it is illegal to BUILD firearms with intent to sell for the SOLE PURPOSE of making profit. But as another pointed out, it's the ATF's burdan of proof.
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