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March 21st, 2019, 04:25 PM #31
Re: School board learns a 20-year active shooter lesson??
Politics is what it is and we all know it's personal agenda driven, as far as the lack of money I am calling bull shit on that one (not at you) the when we have states wasting 10's of millions on failed programs and piss poor attempts at new ones and the federal gov wasting hundreds of billions every year on nothing like the failed CA bullet train program I fail to see a valid excuse.
What about those millions of education dollars that are supposed to be getting raised by the lottery and legal gambling? In the end any politician that uses money as an excuse over your kids life is a POS regardless if they are pro or anti gun. We are talking a few living wage salaries and some benefits, hell put them in the teachers union and give them tenure.Join the GOA & save $5.00. https://www.gunowners.org/mac-subs-join-goa.htm
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March 21st, 2019, 04:27 PM #32
Re: School board learns a 20-year active shooter lesson??
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March 21st, 2019, 04:27 PM #33Grand Member
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Re: School board learns a 20-year active shooter lesson??
I'm not citing a LACK of money. I'm suggesting it's not a priority.
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March 21st, 2019, 04:33 PM #34
Re: School board learns a 20-year active shooter lesson??
50 to 75 students and staff rushing the shooter while yelling crazy shit and throwing everything that's not nailed down sound like a decent strategy to me if you're unarmed.
It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire
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March 21st, 2019, 04:35 PM #35
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March 21st, 2019, 04:36 PM #36Super Member
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Re: School board learns a 20-year active shooter lesson??
Absolutely Phil. Exactly right. I think the solution should be widely publicized and frequent notices that anyone on staff could be armed rather than these 1 or 2 paid security staff definitely are. Then let them demonstrate basic proficiency and carry on. I would rather have 6-9 basically competent armed teachers that are spread throughout the building than 1 or 2 paid staff that are the known quantities and (unfortunate) potential first targets, or worse, not even have them respond due to being in the wrong place at the time it goes down or cowardice, see: Parkland.
Let those who are going to be there already by virtue of their day jobs be prepared to defend themselves if necessary, albeit potentially imperfectly. Personally I'd rather gamble on having a teacher on scene make a mistake and accidentally kill 1 student than have a mass shooter run unchallenged for 5-10 minutes until police arrive. No joke. I'd take that bet because I think the deterrent is so much more effective, and the expected value of lives lost in the two situations is so vastly different. The body count would be less, virtually guaranteed. The alternative is basically a totally 100% unarmed victim zone with no one to stop them until police arrive to put up an actual resistance. How ridiculous is that?
It may sound cold and unpopular but expected value of loss is how policies should be evaluated. Basic risk management.I am not a lawyer.
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March 21st, 2019, 05:21 PM #37
Re: School board learns a 20-year active shooter lesson??
If the school has 1 or 2 armed and UNIFORMED security guards, then any spree shooter will simply target them first. Armed security can't spot the spree shooters until they show guns or start shooting, so he has the element of surprise, he can choose when to strike and the security can only react. He couldn't do that with armed staff hidden among everyone else. Recall the difficulty the US had against the Viet Cong, who also were undetectable until they acted. Make that work FOR us instead of against us, arm the undetectable staff against the armed invader.
As for encouraging the kids to rush the shooter, that assumes that the kids are expendable cannon fodder, which is at least consistent with most other NEA policies. No school should make plans that look like desperate last-ditch efforts, when there are other options, and the other options include "letting one of the several armed adults shoot the killer from a distance". That sounds a lot better than "throw children at the gunman until he runs out of bullets", which is monstrous.Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
Ce sac n'est pas un jouet.
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March 21st, 2019, 05:22 PM #38
Re: School board learns a 20-year active shooter lesson??
Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
Ce sac n'est pas un jouet.
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March 21st, 2019, 05:35 PM #39
Re: School board learns a 20-year active shooter lesson??
in a swarm attack using pens or pencils. Stab deeply through the eyes and you get to the brain.
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities".
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March 21st, 2019, 05:36 PM #40
Re: School board learns a 20-year active shooter lesson??
You see this yet ?
https://www.abc27.com/investigators/...rm-/1820911310
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