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    Default HOuse Bill 521-$1 Million in Insurance?

    Looks like they now want us to be forced to have insurance to exercise our 2nd amendment rights.


    Introduced by this waste of a human (Send him Letters!!!!)
    http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...bio.cfm?id=142


    Full Text at this link as well.
    http://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS/...r=0521&pn=0564





    THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF PENNSYLVANIA



    HOUSE BILL

    No.
    521
    Session of

    2013

    INTRODUCED BY WATERS, BROWNLEE, MCCARTER, BISHOP, SCHLOSSBERG, THOMAS, V. BROWN, COHEN, ROEBUCK, KINSEY, BRIGGS, GAINEY, KIRKLAND, SIMS, STURLA AND SANTARSIERO, FEBRUARY 5, 2013

    REFERRED TO COMMITEE ON JUDICIARY, FEBRUARY 5, 2013

    AN ACT


    1Amending Title 18 (Crimes and Offenses) of the Pennsylvania

    2Consolidated Statutes, in firearms and other dangerous

    3articles, further providing for licenses.


    4The General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

    5hereby enacts as follows:


    6Section 1. Section 6109(e) of Title 18 of the Pennsylvania

    7Consolidated Statutes is amended and the section is amended by

    8adding a subsection to read:


    9§ 6109. Licenses.


    10* * *


    11(e) Issuance of license.--


    12(1) A license to carry a firearm shall be for the

    13purpose of carrying a firearm concealed on or about one's

    14person or in a vehicle and shall be issued if, after an

    15investigation not to exceed 45 days, it appears that the

    16applicant is an individual concerning whom no good cause

    17exists to deny the license, and the applicant has obtained

    18firearm liability insurance as provided under subsection


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    1(e.1). A license shall not be issued to any of the following:


    2(i) An individual whose character and reputation is

    3such that the individual would be likely to act in a

    4manner dangerous to public safety.


    5(ii) An individual who has been convicted of an

    6offense under the act of April 14, 1972 (P.L.233, No.64),

    7known as The Controlled Substance, Drug, Device and

    8Cosmetic Act.


    9(iii) An individual convicted of a crime enumerated

    10in section 6105.


    11(iv) An individual who, within the past ten years,

    12has been adjudicated delinquent for a crime enumerated in

    13section 6105 or for an offense under The Controlled

    14Substance, Drug, Device and Cosmetic Act.


    15(v) An individual who is not of sound mind or who

    16has ever been committed to a mental institution.


    17(vi) An individual who is addicted to or is an

    18unlawful user of marijuana or a stimulant, depressant or

    19narcotic drug.


    20(vii) An individual who is a habitual drunkard.


    21(viii) An individual who is charged with or has been

    22convicted of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a

    23term exceeding one year except as provided for in section

    246123 (relating to waiver of disability or pardons).


    25(ix) A resident of another state who does not

    26possess a current license or permit or similar document

    27to carry a firearm issued by that state if a license is

    28provided for by the laws of that state, as published

    29annually in the Federal Register by the Bureau of

    30Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms of the Department of the


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    1Treasury under 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(19) (relating to

    2definitions).


    3(x) An alien who is illegally in the United States.


    4(xi) An individual who has been discharged from the

    5armed forces of the United States under dishonorable

    6conditions.


    7(xii) An individual who is a fugitive from justice.

    8This subparagraph does not apply to an individual whose

    9fugitive status is based upon nonmoving or moving summary

    10offense under Title 75 (relating to vehicles).


    11(xiii) An individual who is otherwise prohibited

    12from possessing, using, manufacturing, controlling,

    13purchasing, selling or transferring a firearm as provided

    14by section 6105.


    15(xiv) An individual who is prohibited from

    16possessing or acquiring a firearm under the statutes of

    17the United States.


    18(xv) An individual who has failed to obtain firearm

    19liability insurance as provided under subsection (e.1).


    20(3) The license to carry a firearm shall be designed to

    21be uniform throughout this Commonwealth and shall be in a

    22form prescribed by the Pennsylvania State Police. The license

    23shall bear the following:


    24(i) The name, address, date of birth, race, sex,

    25citizenship, height, weight, color of hair, color of eyes

    26and signature of the licensee.


    27(ii) The signature of the sheriff issuing the

    28license.


    29(iii) A license number of which the first two

    30numbers shall be a county location code followed by


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    1numbers issued in numerical sequence.


    2(iv) The point-of-contact telephone number

    3designated by the Pennsylvania State Police under

    4subsection (l).


    5(v) The reason for issuance.


    6(vi) The period of validation.


    7(4) The sheriff shall require a photograph of the

    8licensee on the license. The photograph shall be in a form

    9compatible with the Commonwealth Photo Imaging Network.


    10(5) The original license shall be issued to the

    11applicant. The first copy of the license shall be forwarded

    12to the Pennsylvania State Police within seven days of the

    13date of issue. The second copy shall be retained by the

    14issuing authority for a period of seven years. Except

    15pursuant to court order, both copies and the application

    16shall, at the end of the seven-year period, be destroyed

    17unless the license has been renewed within the seven-year

    18period.


    19(e.1) Liability insurance.--


    20(1) No individual shall be issued a license under

    21subsection (e) without providing the licensing authority with

    22a certificate of liability insurance verifying that the

    23applicant has a valid insurance policy insuring against harm

    24or damage that may arise out of the use of a firearm covered

    25by the license.


    26(2) The insurance policy shall meet all of the

    27following:


    28(i) Be in an amount of at least $1,000,000.


    29(ii) Satisfy any judgment for personal injuries or

    30property damages arising out of negligent or willful acts


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    1involving the use of an insured firearm.


    2(iii) May not cover any unlawful acts.


    3(3) An insurer who has issued a contract of firearm

    4liability insurance, or any approved self-insurance entity,

    5shall do all the following:


    6(i) Notify the licensing authority of the county in

    7which the insured resides if the firearm liability

    8insurance has been canceled or terminated. An insurer

    9shall provide a copy of the notice of cancellation or a

    10copy of the insurer's filing procedures with proof that

    11the notice was written in the normal course of business

    12and placed in the normal course of mailing.


    13(ii) Provide insurance identification certificates

    14to the insured which shall be valid only for the period

    15for which coverage has been paid by the insured.

    16Insurance identification certificates must disclose the

    17period for which coverage has been paid by the insured.

    18If the insured has financed premiums through a premium

    19finance company or is on an insurer-sponsored or agency-

    20sponsored payment plan, insurance identification

    21certificates may be issued for periods of six months

    22notwithstanding that the payment by the insured may be

    23for a period of less than six months.


    24(4) A licensing authority shall not be required to

    25produce proof that notice of termination, lapse or

    26cancellation was provided to the insured in order to revoke

    27the license to carry a firearm. A licensing authority shall

    28immediately revoke a licensee's license if the licensing

    29authority receives notice that a licensee's firearm liability

    30insurance has been canceled or terminated.



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    1(5) The insurer's insurance identification certificate

    2shall be carried simultaneously with the insured firearm and

    3shall be exhibited to any law enforcement officer upon demand

    4for inspection. Failure to produce the insurance

    5identification certification shall result in the following:


    6(i) The law enforcement officer shall confiscate the

    7firearm.


    8(ii) The owner of the confiscated firearm shall be

    9provided with a signed and dated written receipt by the

    10law enforcement officer. This receipt shall include a

    11detailed identifying description indicating the serial

    12number and condition of the firearm.


    13(iii) If, within ten days, the law enforcement

    14officer does not receive proof from the owner of the

    15confiscated firearm that the owner has a valid firearm

    16liability insurance policy, the law enforcement officer

    17shall notify the licensing authority of the county in

    18which the individual resides that proof of insurance was

    19not provided and the firearm was confiscated. Upon

    20receipt of the notification, the licensing authority

    21shall immediately revoke the licensee's license to carry

    22a firearm and immediately notify the law enforcement

    23officer of the revocation.


    24(iv) A confiscated firearm shall be released to an

    25owner as follows:


    26(A) after confirmation has been received that

    27the owner's license to carry has been revoked and the

    28law enforcement officer has notified the owner that

    29the license has been revoked and that the owner may

    30no longer carry the firearm in public; or



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    1(B) the law enforcement officer has received

    2proof from the owner of the confiscated firearm that

    3the owner has a valid firearm liability insurance

    4policy.


    5(6) If a licensing authority revokes a licensee's

    6license to carry a firearm, the licensing authority may not

    7reissue the license to carry until the person furnishes proof

    8of insurance. The licensing authority shall charge a fee of

    9$50 to reissue a license to carry following a revocation.


    10(7) An individual who is in this Commonwealth with a

    11concealed firearm and possesses a valid and lawfully issued

    12license or permit to carry that firearm which has been issued

    13under the laws of another state as provided under section

    146106(b)(15) (relating to firearms not to be carried without a

    15license) shall be required to obtain firearm liability

    16insurance as provided in this section within 30 days of

    17arriving in this Commonwealth.


    18(8) An individual who fails to maintain liability

    19insurance as provided under this subsection shall be subject

    20to the following:


    21(i) For a first offense, the individual shall be

    22subject to a fine of at least $1,000.


    23(ii) For a second offense, the individual shall be

    24subject to a fine of at least $5,000.


    25(iii) For a third offense, the individual commits a

    26a misdemeanor of the third degree and shall be subject to

    27a fine of at least $10,000.


    28(iv) For a fourth and subsequent offense, the

    29individual commits a misdemeanor of the second degree and

    30shall be subject to a fine of at least $15,000.



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    1* * *


    2Section 2. This act shall take effect in 60 days.


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    Default Re: HOuse Bill 521-$1 Million in Insurance?

    Sounds like an infringement to me...how about you?

    knighted4

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    Default Re: HOuse Bill 521-$1 Million in Insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by knighted4 View Post
    Sounds like an infringement to me...how about you?

    knighted4
    More like a precursor to collection. Did you read the part that if you cancel or dont pay for said insurance after getting it, they want the insurance company to notify the authorities where you live. Fucking disgusting. Its funny how the libtards like to give us shit for comparing statistics with DUI and crash deaths, but then when it comes to this they say "Well you have to have insurance for your car dont you? So you should have to have insurance for your guns too!" To which I reply: Having a gun is a RIGHT. Having and driving a car is a PRIVILEGE. So many people seem to forget that simple fact today.

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    Thumbs down Re: HOuse Bill 521-$1 Million in Insurance?

    ...and I am sure that every one of the Commonwealth's convicted felons, drug dealers, rapists, and criminally insane will rush out to purchase the required liability insurance, right?

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    Default Re: HOuse Bill 521-$1 Million in Insurance?

    Insurance is for accidents, not intentional crimes. Do you have insurance for being alive or being happy? Owning firearms is a right. There is not anything insurance will do for public safety. It would definitely be an infringement on our rights. The true idea behind it is to make it too expensive to own a firearm. I got this from an article I read, I think It's posted, I'll have to check and give the source.

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    Default Re: HOuse Bill 521-$1 Million in Insurance?

    Ok. I put this in about a week ago. PaGunner was good enough to put the place to look it up.

    http: online.wsj.com/article/sb1000...e+constitution

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    Default Re: HOuse Bill 521-$1 Million in Insurance?

    Contact you local rep and ask him or her to vote against this.
    ...and they have a plan...

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    Default Re: HOuse Bill 521-$1 Million in Insurance?

    this is absurd. you are buying insurance against the inappropriate use of said firearm, ie if you use it inappropriately, your insured...but then your defined as a criminal commuting a criminal act. no insurance covers criminal acts. plus...NOBODY sells this.
    live to ride

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    Default Re: HOuse Bill 521-$1 Million in Insurance?

    These are the PA Reps who are true Fascists! Enemies of the people! I can not imagine that this law would ever see the light of day but if it did...here they are. Gonna start stockpiling tar and feathers.

    INTRODUCED BY WATERS, BROWNLEE, MCCARTER, BISHOP, SCHLOSSBERG, THOMAS, V. BROWN, COHEN, ROEBUCK, KINSEY, BRIGGS, GAINEY, KIRKLAND, SIMS, STURLA AND SANTARSIERO, FEBRUARY 5, 2013

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    Default Re: HOuse Bill 521-$1 Million in Insurance?

    Wouldnt it be more sensible if they were to require automobile drivers to have a million dollar insurance policy because more people drive cars

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