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July 13th, 2011, 11:55 AM #1
Montgomery County DA's office? Prohibited?
I have a training event coming up in a week or so, which is being held at the Montgomery County DA's office.
What I'm hoping to find out without calling is.. does the DA's office have court facilities inside (Title 18, section 913 of course), and if so, do they have the proper facilities for securing my firearm?
If not, do they have signage stating "no firearms"?
Thanks in advance..."Conflict is inevitable, but combat is optional.”
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July 13th, 2011, 12:09 PM #2Banned
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Re: Montgomery County DA's office? Prohibited?
DA's office is definitely a no-no. See below for relevant statute.
§913. Possession of Firearm or Other Dangerous Weapon in Court Facility.
(a) Offense defined.—A person commits an offense if he:
(1) knowingly possesses a firearm or other dangerous weapon in a court facility or knowingly causes a firearm or other dangerous weapon to be present in a court facility; or
(2) knowingly possesses a firearm or other dangerous weapon in a court facility with the intent that the firearm or other dangerous weapon be used in the commission of a crime or knowingly causes a firearm or other dangerous weapon to be present in a court facility with the intent that the firearm or other dangerous weapon be used in the commission of a crime.
Definition of court facility
“Court facility.” The courtroom of a court of record; a courtroom of a community court; the courtroom of a district justice; a courtroom of the Philadelphia Municipal Court; a courtroom of the Pittsburgh Magistrates Court; a courtroom of the Traffic Court of Philadelphia; judge’s chambers; witness rooms; jury deliberation rooms; attorney conference rooms; prisoner holding cells; offices of court clerks, the district attorney, the sheriff and probation and parole officers; and any adjoining corridors.
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July 13th, 2011, 12:37 PM #3
Re: Montgomery County DA's office? Prohibited?
But by law they MUST have facilities for the checking of firearms as well. I would hope the DA's office knows the law.
(e) Facilities for checking firearms or other dangerous
weapons.--Each county shall make available at or within the
building containing a court facility by July 1, 2002, lockers or
similar facilities at no charge or cost for the temporary
checking of firearms by persons carrying firearms under section
6106(b) or 6109 or for the checking of other dangerous weapons
that are not otherwise prohibited by law. Any individual
checking a firearm, dangerous weapon or an item deemed to be a
dangerous weapon at a court facility must be issued a receipt.
Notice of the location of the facility shall be posted as
required under subsection (d).I am not a lawyer and nothing I say should be construed as legal advice.
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July 13th, 2011, 03:46 PM #4
Re: Montgomery County DA's office? Prohibited?
Isn't the DA's office at the Courthouse? If so, wouldn't you check your firearm at the door? Or is the office in some other location?
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July 13th, 2011, 04:17 PM #5
Re: Montgomery County DA's office? Prohibited?
"Conflict is inevitable, but combat is optional.”
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July 13th, 2011, 07:18 PM #6
Re: Montgomery County DA's office? Prohibited?
The Montco courthouse does have lockable firearm storage. Don't be surprised if they give you attitude about checking it and ask you repeatedly if you want to take it back out to your car instead. I refused repeatedly, and only after I reminded them they were required by law to provide storage did they agree to do so. They were obviously irritated by the fact they actually had to do their job.
Just be sure you tell them you need to check a firearm before you step through the metal detector.
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July 14th, 2011, 11:49 PM #7Junior Member
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Re: Montgomery County DA's office? Prohibited?
One Montgomery Plaza is across the street from the Court House. Airty & Swede STS.
The DA's Offcie is located in the Court House, Yes they have lock boxes and scanners at all enterances.
One Montgomery Plaza has offices for the DA's such as investigations and forensics. they have meeting rooms in there. I dont know if they have lock boxes down there. Ihavent been inside that building in many years.
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July 31st, 2011, 11:02 AM #8
Re: Montgomery County DA's office? Prohibited?
Thought I should follow up on that. I walked in, and there was a guard/receptionist there. I asked him where the locker facilities were, and he said that's only needed for 2 floors, the 7th, and one other (that I can't remember), but that since there's no court in session that day, I'm fine.
I politely said "Uhh, I don't think there's any differentiation in the law on that one, would you mind verifying that?" He was pleasant, and checked with the deputies. Came back and told me where I could go to check my weapon.
The deputies weren't friendly or unfriendly, but were professional. I filled out the receipt, but they kept the key. I was running late so I didn't have time to argue about it, but when I came back, I'm positive it hadn't been disturbed.
Of course, when I get up to the room, several LEO's were in this class with me, and all of them were carrying.. sheesh.
P.S. GREAT Mexican food a few blocks down at Taqueria La Michoacana"Conflict is inevitable, but combat is optional.”
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August 1st, 2011, 12:29 AM #9
Re: Montgomery County DA's office? Prohibited?
Ha.............Greensburg courthouse is not the only one? Geeee......I thought we were the only ones where they love to sit on their asses and watch tv all day long. How do I know you ask?.......I worked at the courthouse in Greensburg for a short period of time and no.....not as a guard/security or anything like that
Yeah.....if you forget to mention that.....you will be on the floor with a baton up your butt.You can only get smarter by playing a smarter opponent
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August 1st, 2011, 09:49 AM #10
Re: Montgomery County DA's office? Prohibited?
And we wonder why this board gets a bad rep.
"Conflict is inevitable, but combat is optional.”
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