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December 3rd, 2018, 08:34 AM #21
Re: Mossberg Shockwave and concealed carry or loaded whil carried in a Car
I'm with Carson on this one.
Your best move is to pick another driving route to your destination so you can avoid the bad parts of town as much as possible.
Being well armed is no guarantee of success if attacked, and you are unnecessarily risking your life and your wife's life.
So by all means carry what you wish, but please also be sensible and avoid the danger altogether when possible.
You are welcome to send a private message to me or Carson (or other Philly guys) if you would like better directions and don't want to post them in the open forum.
Best of luck to you.
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December 3rd, 2018, 08:59 AM #22
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December 3rd, 2018, 06:51 PM #23Grand Member
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Re: Mossberg Shockwave and concealed carry or loaded whil carried in a Car
Not a gray area. It's completely legal because it's classified as a firearm, as has been stated. The real issue is the two previous quotes. You will likely be detained, arrested, and have your Shockwave confiscated. You'll win in the end, but expect much time, effort, and likely money lost. Of course, you might get your legal fees back in a civil case, which will cost you more time and effort.
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December 3rd, 2018, 07:04 PM #24
Re: Mossberg Shockwave and concealed carry or loaded whil carried in a Car
The Shockwave is a "firearm" or "other firearm" to federal law GCA'68. It isn't a handgun or shotgun, nor a NFA device.
To Pennsylvania it is a "firearm", so it is covered by your LTCF. And the same rules apply requiring a LTCF for carrying it concealed or in a vehicle.RIP: SFN, 1861, twoeggsup, Lambo, jamesjo, JayBell, 32 Magnum, Pro2A, mrwildroot, dregan, Frenchy, Fragger, ungawa, Mtn Jack, Grapeshot, R.W.J., PennsyPlinker, Statkowski, Deanimator, roland, aubie515
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December 3rd, 2018, 08:59 PM #25Member
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Re: Mossberg Shockwave and concealed carry or loaded whil carried in a Car
On a normal basis the path in and out of the city is NE PA extension to the Schuylkill Expressway to the University City area. I have reviewed the crime statistics and they are extremlynot bad, its once you leave the Schuylkill or University City area it seems to change.
As long as I can stay on the above route and we enter/exit during day light, things are ok.
In the case I first mentioned, a series of events just played out in my wife was not released until she finished the full in patient "chemo" treatment, that required 96 straight hours of medication, so each of three inpatients treatments went 5-6 days each, on top of three out patent treatments and 7-8 weeks of radiation.
Then the Turnpike was shutdown at midnight, we did not leave the hospital until 1AM, so we were forced to navigate by GPS, not the best option, but my wife simply had nothing left in the tank and it was get her home or she simply would have given up and let nature take its course.
By the time she completed all of this she could hardly walk and I spent a great deal of time fighting with her because she did not have the strength to keep going. In some ways her health has improved significantly, but she is now fighting the bad side effects of her treatment. We still continue to travel to Philly for her care and will most likely have to continue this for the rest of her life, as this is her only option.
With all of that said, my first course of action is exit a bad spot if possible and the last option is fire a firearm in self defense due to the moral and legal issues. My main concern here is the legality of having a loaded shockwave in my truck, even with a valid LTCF.
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December 3rd, 2018, 09:36 PM #26
Re: Mossberg Shockwave and concealed carry or loaded whil carried in a Car
You keep referring to shutting down the Turnpike. Do you mean the Schuykill expressway? If I were in that situation, I would try the East or West river drives up along the Schuykill river to get to city line or I would go West out of the city before I would take the North Philly tour. Maybe even going South to I-95 to get to I-476 then North. Sometimes a map and some common sense is better than a GPS
I wish you and the wife well, in your ongoing journey. Living in and out of hospitals, especially in big cities sucks.Illegitimus non carborundum est
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December 4th, 2018, 02:12 AM #27
Re: Mossberg Shockwave and concealed carry or loaded whil carried in a Car
I am now assuming they are going to either Penn Presbyterian or University of Pennsylvania since both are near University City and recently PennDott was closing the Schuylkill Expressway overnight, weeknights, from South Street to I-676 which would affect them leaving and heading to the NE EXT. His GPS probably routed them the quickest way possible which probably put them through some West or North Philly neighborhoods.
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December 4th, 2018, 09:36 AM #28
Re: Mossberg Shockwave and concealed carry or loaded whil carried in a Car
I am very sorry to hear of your wife's declining health.
May she have a full recovery, and may you both have strength and peace of mind as you manage your difficult circumstances.
With regard to your traveling situation, please go ahead and send me a private message here: http://forum.pafoa.org/private.php?do=newpm&u=30334
Just give me the general starting point and the hospital name, and I can send you several safer alternative routes for road closures in the future.
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December 4th, 2018, 10:37 AM #29Grand Member
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December 5th, 2018, 12:05 PM #30
Re: Mossberg Shockwave and concealed carry or loaded whil carried in a Car
Before I bothered carrying a bulky, cumbersome weapon like the shockwave I would simply carry a full size pistol I can shoot competently and carry a few magazines.
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