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    Default Re: PA no longer recognizing Utah Non-Res permits?

    Quote Originally Posted by kp15460 View Post
    I've sent correspondence to Rep. Hickernell and Senator Brubaker whom represent my district.

    This is the beginning. We knew this was coming, and its here.

    Now that it's here it's time to take on the bullies. Dig in and get involved.
    "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery." Thomas Jefferson

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    Default Re: PA no longer recognizing Utah Non-Res permits?

    Quote Originally Posted by olderguy View Post
    Now all those people from NJ that used to CC will OC
    Completely accurate. I'm from NJ and always concealed carry in PA. Looks like I'm ordering a new holster for my 5" 1911 to go on my hip for when I'm over there!

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    Default Re: PA no longer recognizing Utah Non-Res permits?

    Quote Originally Posted by ruckus43082 View Post
    Completely accurate. I'm from NJ and always concealed carry in PA. Looks like I'm ordering a new holster for my 5" 1911 to go on my hip for when I'm over there!
    Suggest you consider the advisability of transporting a handgun during the NJ portions of your trip to Pa.

    see: http://forum.pafoa.org/concealed-ope...ly-report.html
    IANAL

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    Default Re: Utah

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhunter View Post
    well it appears that the cancer is slowly spreading into PA, all it'll take now is a Democratic Governor and we're set
    I said this years ago on here and most laughed....not so funny now is it? Bloombergs Trojan Horse......
    The answer to a fool is silence.

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    Default Re: AG Kane Axes Reciprocity with Utah

    Quote Originally Posted by eruby View Post
    Yes, since PA no longer recognizes Utah, you can get a Utah permit with out the PA permit. Of course it will be of no use to you in PA.

    That's what many of us in Maryland did in order to carry in PA. I will be able to renew my Utah permit, unfortunately, I will not be able to use to carry concealed in PA. It's now nothing more than a cheap lock-picking device.
    PA by statute recognizes all permits for vehicle carry. so you could still carry concealed in a vehicle in PA.

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    Default Re: Utah

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandydancer5618 View Post
    Our attorney general is making it impossible for non residents to carry here with out of state permits. If you have a permit from your home state you can apply here in Pa. Cheap and easy to get.
    NJ doesnt issue permits and we're a bordering state...
    Last edited by hotdog; May 13th, 2014 at 10:13 AM.

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    Default Re: PA no longer recognizing Utah Non-Res permits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bang View Post
    Non-resident LTCF obtained for the sole purpose of carrying in states having reciprocity or recognition is a ridiculously necessary response to ridiculous (and unconstitutional) gun laws, and is an example of what's wrong-headed about people saying "but it's the law" to many stupid laws.

    It was the law in European countries in the 1500s to possess a bible printed ONLY in Latin. Having a bible printed in English would get you the death penalty by burning at the stake. "It's the law" is a mindless answer to things that are just wrong or not based upon reality.

    "It's the law" doesn't cut it when the law renders a person defenseless...especially when the law-makers and enforcers are surrounded by defense measures for themselves.
    "Its the law" is a crock of sh|t.

    Theres a difference between legal and legitimate laws. There are a ton of illegitimate laws on the books.

    What are we supposed to do, challenge every one of them to the SCOTUS?

    And thats assuming they get it right.

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    Default Re: PA no longer recognizing Utah Non-Res permits?

    Quote Originally Posted by sprrdhawk44 View Post
    This is when pafoa needs to mobilize. Bitching and moaning about it isn't going to accomplish anything. We need to find an attorney that will take this on, fund the attack, plan it, and then execute that motherfucker with extreme prejudice.


    Or reach out to SAF, GOA or another gun group?

    Either way, I'd pitch in.

    This F's me.

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    Default Re: PA no longer recognizing Utah Non-Res permits?

    Quote Originally Posted by gprimr1 View Post
    I think her plan is to cancel every state until PA is like other Northeast States, honoring their permits only.

    Then they can start dismantling the Shall Issue system.


    See, every state in the NE with an urban crime center (NYC, Camden, Baltimore, DC) has sh|t gun laws.

    PA, however (even with Philthy), was able to dodge the bullet.

    Your AG is trying to change that.

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    Default Re: PA no longer recognizing Utah Non-Res permits?

    Okay, I checked on a couple of sources. It seems that The BCI in Utah responded to the letter they received asking what sort of reciprocity agreement the AG's office WOULD honor, and Robert Mulle (the guy who signed the letter from Harrisburg) said he would have to go back up through the correct channels to see if Kane's office is interested. Who knows how long this is going to take.

    The BCI in Utah is starting to get hammered with phone calls from PA. They are super laid back and accept everyone's license/permit, and I feel kind of bad for them, catching some of the firestorm as a result of this crap
    Junior

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