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    Default Re: Gun Violence Tax passes Unanimously

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015...ut-of-seattle/

    Expect more areas of the country to follow suit.
    The first Marijuana law was to apply a tax stamp.... no stamp, you go to jail. Don't recall that working very well.

    Same thing with firearms. Raise their cost, improve the profits for under ground marketers, they go with the business opportunities.

    The people who need firearms and ammunition as tools of their criminal trade will get straw purchasers to buy or will travel out of town to get a firearm or ammo.

    We're assuming that the law survives a court challenge. The 9th Circus might let it go. Depends upon the arguments.
    Last edited by GeneCC; August 12th, 2015 at 09:11 PM.

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    Default Re: Gun Violence Tax passes Unanimously

    Quote Originally Posted by JenniferG View Post
    Pretty certain they are preempted by state law and cannot enforce the tax.
    Hope so.

    This is the same city which was among the first to mandate a $15.00 "minimum wage" too.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst...-minimum-wage/



    Seattle's City Council is real big on useless gestures. They tilt at windmills because the motivation is more important than the effect of the law.

    Let's hope that Jennifer is right...

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    Quote Originally Posted by knight0334 View Post
    Any of which that is firearms related and isn't related to the municipal exemption.




    This below is what the municipalities are allowed to regulate.
    In speaking with a colleague from Seattle tonight from what he has been told, the state is already on board with the tax and will not challenge it because they do not feel it violates state preemption. I figured they wouldn't knowingly pass it if the state was going to challenge it under preemption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IGPJAP View Post
    In speaking with a colleague from Seattle tonight from what he has been told, the state is already on board with the tax and will not challenge it because they do not feel it violates state preemption. I figured they wouldn't knowingly pass it if the state was going to challenge it under preemption.
    Corruption is the default behavior of government officials. JPC

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    Default Re: Gun Violence Tax passes Unanimously

    Hmm, pay X + $2.50 for each 50-round box of 9mm ammo in Seattle, or drive across Lake Washington to Bellevue and just pay X. It is a conundrum indeed.

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    Default Re: Gun Violence Tax passes Unanimously

    Quote Originally Posted by JenniferG View Post
    Don't worry, once the state fails to challenge the tax on grounds of preemption your meter will return to normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IGPJAP View Post
    Don't worry, once the state fails to challenge the tax on grounds of preemption your meter will return to normal.
    You don't know anyone in Washington Sate and you don't own any firearms and you come here to spout what the meter is reading. No state gives up it's taxing power to a city unless they get a cut, ever.
    Corruption is the default behavior of government officials. JPC

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    Default Re: Gun Violence Tax passes Unanimously

    Quote Originally Posted by JenniferG View Post
    You don't know anyone in Washington Sate and you don't own any firearms and you come here to spout what the meter is reading.
    Ok if you say so, lol.


    Quote Originally Posted by JenniferG View Post
    No state gives up it's taxing power to a city unless they get a cut, ever.
    Really, lol? I guess you missed the $2 a pack cigarette tax in Philadelphia in which the state gets ZERO dollars from. What happened there? The state also gets ZERO dollars from the additional 1% sales tax in Philadelphia as well. There are countless other examples across the country.

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    Default Re: Gun Violence Tax passes Unanimously

    Quote Originally Posted by IGPJAP View Post
    Ok if you say so, lol.




    Really, lol? I guess you missed the $2 a pack cigarette tax in Philadelphia in which the state gets ZERO dollars from. What happened there? The state also gets ZERO dollars from the additional 1% sales tax in Philadelphia as well. There are countless other examples across the country.

    So you're OK with the city openly defying the law? That's not problem where I live either. At my voting location you are required to produce a valid ID to vote completely against state law. It's up to the individual who believe that isn't legal to change that. Just as the individuals in Washington State will bring suit for defying preemption. Your side started this war and you will be crushed with your own tactics.
    Last edited by JenniferG; August 13th, 2015 at 03:20 PM.
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    Default Re: Gun Violence Tax passes Unanimously

    Tax the 2A? What part of "shall not be infringed" is not understood? Unconstitutional on both the state and federal levels. Who's leading the charge? NRA, GOA, PAFOA?

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