***PITTSBURGH RIFLE OPEN CARRY*** UPDATED INFO IN OP***

[Hodgie]

Are people seriously calling the police right. now to ask how they are going to enforce the law? Seriously? For one, what guarantee are you getting? For two, chosen enforcement doesn't change the statutes.

Hello officer, I'm planning to do something and I'm pretty sure Its not illegal, but just to be sure, here's my plan, as well as where and when I'm going to do it. You wont arrest me right?

Yeah that sounds kind of nuts, I would skip the cops and call your local gun store and ask the clerk they should defiantly know.

[R L Suehr]

Are people seriously calling the police right. now to ask how they are going to enforce the law? Seriously? For one, what guarantee are you getting? For two, chosen enforcement doesn't change the statutes.

Hello officer, I'm planning to do something and I'm pretty sure Its not illegal, but just to be sure, here's my plan, as well as where and when I'm going to do it. You wont arrest me right?

It's no guarantee, but it would be useful to know how they are going to order the officers to enforce the statute. The wording may hold up in court, but that means little if dozens of us are cuffed and stuffed and have to spend thousands of dollars defending an illegal arrest.

[Justin///M]

I don't understand the confusion. A LTCF is an exemption. With a LTCF, SOE doesn't prohibit your carry of any type of firearm.

[Mr_Gixxer]

I don't understand the confusion. A LTCF is an exemption. With a LTCF, SOE doesn't prohibit your carry of any type of firearm.

I think the confusion is with what the definition of firearm is in relation to the SOE.

[Justin///M]

Also,

I'll bet 1000 dollars that the police aren't interested in mass arrests or checking LTCFs.

[R L Suehr]

I don't understand the confusion. A LTCF is an exemption. With a LTCF, SOE doesn't prohibit your carry of any type of firearm.

That is evidently the confusion. People have listed two totally different versions of the statute and there's different definitions of firearms being used.

As I read it Justin, I agree with you.

[Justin///M]

I think the confusion is with what the definition of firearm is in relation to the SOE.

SOE has it's own definition.

This is another glaring example of the trap of our statutes that needs cleaned up. In other words, get read of this SOE bullshit. So if I don't have a LTCF, I can open carry if I'm actively engaged in self defense? WTF does that even mean?

[Justin///M]

Here's a Josh Prince post that kind of navigates the language traps.

https://blog.princelaw.com/2018/01/1...-pennsylvania/

[JustinR]

I think the confusion is with what the definition of firearm is in relation to the SOE.

I think the confusion is with what the definition of firearm is in relation to the SOE.

It doesn't matter, read 6107 alone.

It says you can't carry a firearm unless you're licensed under 6109, then defines firearm as any gun. The definition in the section is the only definition that matters regarding that section.

So under 6107 you can carry a rifle if you're licensed under 6109. Not in compliance with all provisions of 6109; just licensed under.

[R L Suehr]

It doesn't matter, read 6107 alone.

It says you can't carry a firearm unless you're licensed under 6109, then defines firearm as any gun. The definition in the section is the only definition that matters regarding that section.

So under 6107 you can carry a rifle if you're licensed under 6109. Not in compliance with all provisions of 6109; just licensed under.

Again, that's the way I read it as well. It seems people who don't want rifles carried to the rally are mudding the waters.