Why doesn't Pennsylvania have Constitutional Carry?

[emsjeep]

got facts to back up your statements?!

they're resisting because we're in their FUCKING COUNTRY! we'd be doing the same damn thing if they were here doing exactly what we're doing there!

They started it...see any Americans flying planes into mosques in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt?

"Flush out your head gear, new guy. You think we waste gooks for freedom?"

[andrewjs18]

They started it...see any Americans flying planes into mosques in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt?

"Flush out your head gear, new guy. You think we waste gooks for freedom?"

you do realize we've been bombing the middle east for quite some time, right? for what?! maybe they attacked us for our terrible foreign policy of interventionism.

also..you're mentioning another unjust & unconstitutional war...

[Finster]

you do realize we've been bombing the middle east for quite some time, right? for what?! maybe they attacked us for our terrible foreign policy of interventionism.

also..you're mentioning another unjust & unconstitutional war...

You just disgust me to no end. I think it is time for my ignore list to be activated.

[emsjeep]

you do realize we've been bombing the middle east for quite some time, right? for what?! maybe they attacked us for our terrible foreign policy of interventionism.

also..you're mentioning another unjust & unconstitutional war...

So, what, you deny all of our interests in foreign stability?

[ShooterInPA1]

you do realize we've been bombing the middle east for quite some time, right? for what?! maybe they attacked us for our terrible foreign policy of interventionism.

also..you're mentioning another unjust & unconstitutional war...

We dropped far more bombs on Germany and Vietnam, yet I do not see Germans or Vietnamese flying planes into our high rises.

Get a clue.

[nightglider]

So...how about Constitutional Carry in PA, huh?

[andrewjs18]

You just disgust me to no end. I think it is time for my ignore list to be activated.

I know..the truth usually does hurt.

So, what, you deny all of our interests in foreign stability?

we should leave foreign nations to deal with their own problems..we have problems here in America we need to take care of first...ie- securing our borders.

We dropped far more bombs on Germany and Vietnam, yet I do not see Germans or Vietnamese flying planes into our high rises.

Get a clue.

and why are we still in sovereign nations?!!?!

before a mod locks this thread..lets get back on topic. =)

[GHogHarvester]

If any state should have Constitutional Carry, I would think it would be PA, yet we do not. Curious why this is the case as the PA Constitution is about as unambiguous as possible. It could not be written more clearly IMO. The framers wanted every citizen the right to defend themselves and this is a right which cannot be questioned.

Having to get a LTCF is indeed questioning this right.....therefore Unconstitutional IMO. Where am I going wrong?



PA Constitution
Right to Bear Arms
Section 21.
The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.

Don't forget:

Section 25. Reservation of Powers in People
To guard against transgressions of the high powers which we have delegated, we declare that everything in this article is excepted out of the general powers of government and shall forever remain inviolate.

The answer is we do. The government has, as it often does, overstepped the boundaries we have constrained them to. They are the violators, not we the people. Their shackles need to be retightened in Nov., and each and every time they transgress.

[whoshisface]

They're fighting to keep the enemy occupied OVER THERE instead of waiting for them to come here and fuck shit up...other people's freedom potentially incidental to our own security...but that also ignores the political side of the story which is just another twisted mess. You are essentially correct though....

I know I'm correct and its a shame. We could use them here as police officers (non-military as the military should never police the citizens!), or in a military capacity securing our borders. They could patrol our shores, Mexico and Canada borders. This is a far bigger threat than Iraq. Don't get me wrong Iraq DID have WMD and we found 300 wmds that Saddam swore he didn't have, people forget about that. Regardless there is no need to play police in Iraq, let them kill themselves and fight for their own freedom, not that I'm unsympathetic but I guarantee that unless they fight for it themselves and win it they will never have freedom.

[mrjam2jab]

So...how about Constitutional Carry in PA, huh?

PA Constitutional carry to War in Middle East....one hell of a tangent huh?