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  1. #161
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    Default Re: 2016 NFA wait time

    But it's about safety not money. I've said it before you want me to pay a tax I'm ok with that. But meet us in the middle and automate the checks and approvals. No reason it should take any longer than a standard nics.

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    Default Re: 2016 NFA wait time

    I saw that, but how many sales/applications could Silencer Shop actually process in 2 days? 10,000? That's over 200/hr, 24hrs/day, for 2 days straight. How many employees do they have? Not sure I'm buying it.

    Quote Originally Posted by djeuch View Post
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    Oh boy.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by NathanB View Post
    But it's about safety not money. I've said it before you want me to pay a tax I'm ok with that. But meet us in the middle and automate the checks and approvals. No reason it should take any longer than a standard nics.
    Agreed. What more do NFA examiners actually do? It's an antiquated system, but we know change is very slow, so I don't expect much progress very soon.

  4. #164
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    Default Re: 2016 NFA wait time

    Quote Originally Posted by NathanB View Post
    But it's about safety not money. I've said it before you want me to pay a tax I'm ok with that. But meet us in the middle and automate the checks and approvals. No reason it should take any longer than a standard nics.
    Totally agree

    NICS system should be the way to roll. Same as you, i'll gladly pay the tax of thats what the law is.
    -Buy item at shop (do paperwork from online purchase after F3 transfer)
    -complete paperwork
    -shop performs PICS check
    -upon approval customer pays NFA tax via cash/check to dealer or dealer logs into an online system and the customer pays via debit/credit. Dealer pays at the end of the week/month for all cash/check payment
    -dealer gives a copy of some type of Form with stamp (sticker) saying its approved
    -customer leaves that day with said item

  5. #165
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nate7667 View Post
    Totally agree

    NICS system should be the way to roll. Same as you, i'll gladly pay the tax of thats what the law is.
    -Buy item at shop (do paperwork from online purchase after F3 transfer)
    -complete paperwork
    -shop performs PICS check
    -upon approval customer pays NFA tax via cash/check to dealer or dealer logs into an online system and the customer pays via debit/credit. Dealer pays at the end of the week/month for all cash/check payment
    -dealer gives a copy of some type of Form with stamp (sticker) saying its approved
    -customer leaves that day with said item
    But consider all the poor unemployed government employees...

  6. #166
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    Default Re: 2016 NFA wait time

    Silencer shop has all the forms and stuff automated. They managed to do it. They are the reason eforms for form 4s went away because they were able to automate the whole submission process. Smarter than harder

  7. #167
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    Default Re: 2016 NFA wait time

    Quote Originally Posted by Nate7667 View Post
    $2 million in tax revenue in the back of that truck alone if those are the ~10,000 forms
    That's insane.

  8. #168
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    Default Re: 2016 NFA wait time

    My check was cashed yesterday. Thank god it beat that truckload there haha.

  9. #169
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    Quote Originally Posted by AHelm3 View Post
    My check was cashed yesterday. Thank god it beat that truckload there haha.
    You probably won't get entered into the system for 4 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NathanB View Post
    Silencer shop has all the forms and stuff automated. They managed to do it. They are the reason eforms for form 4s went away because they were able to automate the whole submission process. Smarter than harder
    Wow, that's pretty impressive, even for an automated system. Over 200/hour.

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