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    Default 80% Lower Update on PICS

    Couldn't find the thread about the 80% lowers, so my apologies.

    On the PA PICS login website:

    As of 12-16-19, the sale of partially-manufactured (often referred to as 80%) frames and receivers and kits which include the same, requires a background check through the Pennsylvania Instant Check System, in accordance with the Attorney General's binding opinion and applicable requirements within the UFA. No sales may occur by a licensed firearms dealer without such a check. PSP is not yet ready to process such checks and is working diligently to have a process in place as soon as possible within the next thirty days to allow these checks to occur in a lawful manner
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    Default Re: 80% Lower Update on PICS

    Does the AG actually have the legal authority to make such a "binding opinion"?
    Rules are written in the stone,
    Break the rules and you get no bones,
    all you get is ridicule, laughter,
    and a trip to the house of pain.

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    Default Re: 80% Lower Update on PICS

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    Does the AG actually have the legal authority to make such a "binding opinion"?
    his pompous ass thinks he does....another overreaching political hack

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    Thumbs down Re: 80% Lower Update on PICS

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    Does the AG actually have the legal authority to make such a "binding opinion"?
    Most AG suffer from a God syndrome

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    Default Re: 80% Lower Update on PICS

    so you can't buy from an ffl ...... but someone who sells 80% lowers and is not an ffl is ok to sell..... dumbass and illegal his job is not to make laws or interpret them he is not a judge and he is not the house or senate soooooo.

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    Default Re: 80% Lower Update on PICS

    I'm sure that our legisluture is hard at work filing a suit to stop his binding opinion.
    Rules are written in the stone,
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    all you get is ridicule, laughter,
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    Default Re: 80% Lower Update on PICS

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    I'm sure that our legisluture is hard at work filing a suit to stop his binding opinion.
    and that's why we have Mr. Prince but still this crap has to stop.

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    Default Re: 80% Lower Update on PICS

    Quote Originally Posted by HKusp 45 View Post
    and that's why we have Mr. Prince but still this crap has to stop.
    The sad thing is, we shouldn't have to rely upon the citizens to reign this crap in, the "lawmakers" should be doing it themselves since he's exceeded his power.
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    all you get is ridicule, laughter,
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    Default Re: 80% Lower Update on PICS

    Quote Originally Posted by WCMG View Post
    Couldn't find the thread about the 80% lowers, so my apologies.

    On the PA PICS login website:

    As of 12-16-19, the sale of partially-manufactured (often referred to as 80%) frames and receivers and kits which include the same, requires a background check through the Pennsylvania Instant Check System, in accordance with the Attorney General's binding opinion and applicable requirements within the UFA. No sales may occur by a licensed firearms dealer without such a check. PSP is not yet ready to process such checks and is working diligently to have a process in place as soon as possible within the next thirty days to allow these checks to occur in a lawful manner
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    I only call in, I wonder if they updated it.
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    Default Re: 80% Lower Update on PICS

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco the Iroc View Post
    I only call in, I wonder if they updated it.
    so how exactly are they going to run something without a serial number or is this just to make sure the person is not prohibited which then begs the question why should I have to pay for said check. There's no way to transfer something without an assigned S/N and again why would I have t pay a transfer fee as well for them already infringing on my rights as well. Is this free of charge then as it is an expense I would sooner not have incurred but for the grace of the Fucktard AG?

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