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    Default Transfer firearm

    My neice’s husband, a police officer in NJ, plans to give me his personal S&W 357 Magnum, Model 66-1.
    I have a License to Carry Firearms so I believe the gun can be transferred to me without any third
    party or governmental involement. He just hands me gun and I keep it.

    Am I correct?

    Thanks - Steve

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    Default Re: Transfer firearm

    Noooooooooo. My understanding is that the only instance in which you can transfer a pistol without paperwork in PA is spouse to spouse or parent to child. And I don't even know how that would apply once you throw Jersey into the mix.

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    Default Re: Transfer firearm

    not if you want to follow the law unless your neices husband lives in pennsylvania.

    all gun transfers between residences of different states must go through an FFL. he can ship it to your dealer, have hsi dealer ship it to your dealer or just come visit and hand carry it to your dealer. but you have to fill out a 4473 at a dealer in pennsylvania to get the gun.

    if you arent concerned wiht following the law just ignore everything that i said.

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    Default Re: Transfer firearm

    Having a LTCF means nothing. LTCF simply allows you to carry a loaded firearm in your vehicle, and conceal it on your person if you like. Every time you want to buy or sell a handgun to another citizen, you ABSOLUTELY MUST go to a gun shop to transfer a handgun in the state of pennsylvania.

    There are a few exceptions;
    If you are husband and wife, child and parent, or child and grandparent, you may sell or give firearms (under PA statutory law, we call handguns firearms) to eachother without having to go through a FFL(federal firearm licensee/gun shop). However, in order for that to be lawful, both the giver and the receiver must be residents of Pennsylvania.

    I can only assume since your neices husband is a NJ police officer, that he lives in new jersey, and has a new jersey drivers license. If that is true, he cannot just give the gun to his wife, even if she is a full time Pennsylvania resident. Your neices husband can bring the gun to pa, and then they can go to any gun shop and have it lawfully transferred into her possession for $25-30.

    If I missed anything someone will come along and fill you in on the rest.

    I see you're located in brodheadsville. Are you familiar with American Sport Shooting on route 209? You can contact the owner Rich and he will help you with the transfer.
    Last edited by jcabin; August 26th, 2010 at 05:15 AM.
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    Default Re: Transfer firearm

    Thanks guys but it may be that the ‘license to carry’ does exempt a person from the normal requirements per:

    “It is unlawful to lend, give, or otherwise transfer a handgun unless exempted by law or by following the procedure previously described.
    Exempted is a person who receives the handgun and has a license to carry or who is engaged in a Pennsylvania Game Commission or
    NRA hunter safety, firearm training, or competition program or who is engaged in hunting or trapping.”

    I’ve not been able to locate the above paragraph in the actual law however.

    Thanks Steve

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    Default Re: Transfer firearm

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Muccione View Post
    Thanks guys but it may be that the ‘license to carry’ does exempt a person from the normal requirements per:

    “It is unlawful to lend, give, or otherwise transfer a handgun unless exempted by law or by following the procedure previously described.
    Exempted is a person who receives the handgun and has a license to carry or who is engaged in a Pennsylvania Game Commission or
    NRA hunter safety, firearm training, or competition program or who is engaged in hunting or trapping.”

    I’ve not been able to locate the above paragraph in the actual law however.

    Thanks Steve
    The exemption for giving a handgun to someone with a LTCF is covered in 18 Pa.C.S. § 6115: Loans on, or lending or giving firearms prohibited.

    You are not looking to have it loaned to you. You are looking to have in transfered to your ownership. That is covered in 18 Pa.C.S. § 6111: Sale or transfer of firearms.
    You MUST go through a FFL for this because you do not meet the Exemptions in 6111.

    These are the laws you are looking for.
    18 Pa.C.S. § 6111: Sale or transfer of firearms
    18 Pa.C.S. § 6115: Loans on, or lending or giving firearms prohibited
    Last edited by tlgpa; August 26th, 2010 at 02:04 PM.
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