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    Default The Gun Ban List is Out

    I just received an email from a friend of mine who has an FFL in New York and it is quite upsetting.

    To all who are interested:

    The Gun Ban list is out.
    Here it is folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that you did. Please send this to everyone you can. It will come up for a vote, and it might even be a secret vote if Madame Pelosi has her way, and then it will be a done deal. ....thanks to Colonel Rus...Hal.

    Right to own a gun Remember, The first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens.

    Subject: Gun Law Update by Alan Korwin, Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list. Forward or send to every gun owner you know...Gun Law Update by Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America. Jan. 5, 2008. Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress) It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady's plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady's current plans and targets of opportunity, It's horrific. They're going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They've made little mention of criminals. Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment.

    The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal
    ( the final list will be worse )

    Rifles (or copies or duplicates):
    • M1 Carbine,
    • Sturm Ruger Mini-14,
    • AR-15,
    • Bushmaster XM15,
    • Armalite M15,
    • AR-10,
    • Thompson 1927,
    • Thompson M1;
    • AK,
    • AKM,
    • AKS,
    • AK-47,
    • AK-74,
    • ARM,
    • MAK90,
    • NHM 90,
    • NHM 91,
    • SA 85,
    • SA 93,
    • VEPR;
    • Olympic Arms PCR;
    • AR70,
    • Calico Liberty ,
    • Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU,
    • Fabrique National FN/FAL,
    • FN/LAR, or FNC,
    • Hi-Point20Carbine,
    • HK-91,
    • HK-93,
    • HK-94,
    • HK-PSG-1,
    • Thompson 1927 Commando,
    • Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;
    • Saiga,
    • SAR-8,
    • SAR-4800,
    • SKS with detachable magazine,
    • SLG 95,
    • SLR 95 or 96,
    • Steyr AU,
    • Tavor,
    • Uzi,
    • Galil and Uzi Sporter,
    • Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).

    Pistols (or copies or duplicates):
    • Calico M-110,
    • MAC-10,
    • MAC-11, or MPA3,
    • Olympic Arms OA,
    • TEC-9,
    • TEC-DC9,
    • TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10,
    • Uzi.

    Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
    • Armscor 30 BG,
    • SPAS 12 or LAW 12,
    • Striker 12,
    • Streetsweeper. Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):

    A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:

    (i) a folding or telescoping stock,
    (ii) a threaded barrel,
    (iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below),
    (iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.

    Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).

    A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has:

    (i) a second pistol grip,
    (ii) a threaded barrel,
    (iii) a barrel shroud or
    (iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
    (v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

    A semiautomatic shotgun with:

    (i) a folding or telescoping stock,
    (ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
    (iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and
    (iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

    Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.

    Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will:

    Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General." Note that Obama's pick for this office (Eric Holder) wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home.

    In making this determination, the bill says, "there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event"

    In plain English this means that ANY ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public.

    The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that devious or what? And of course, "sporting purpose" is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.


    Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm <http://portal.mxlogic.com/redir/?FTo7feeffI6QXI8LK3HL3zo08yT0_j5enMyvnu08rLRXCzAQs FFL6zB-VKVIxI9RHd45rev0QSOyOYyrhjpsKYMYCMrjpdwADVEw2js3h0 cX0Qg7OFcQgiEq8aJPdPYfDwedECQjqtS4nT1RQjhOrkgesUlD A>

    "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there will be a gun ban. BO 2009
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    Default Re: The Gun Ban List is Out

    Quote Originally Posted by Retired One View Post
    Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).
    My SKS has a fixed 10-round magazine that will actually hold 11 rounds. Guess it's right out, eh?

    What a crock of shit.

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    Default Re: The Gun Ban List is Out

    SIGH

    Repost.

    Inaccurate one at that..

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    Default Re: The Gun Ban List is Out

    Holy crap! I hadn't seen that before! I better go buy some EBRs and ammo before Obama comes to my house and takes them!



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    Default Re: The Gun Ban List is Out

    this is why i cant go to wal-mart or any other place to buy ammo. all the other sheep see shit like this and go running pooping their pants. this ia bull shit. i bet the guy who posted this sells over priced guns at gunshows.

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    Default Re: The Gun Ban List is Out

    Hey it's fun to see this same list posted every single day!

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    Default Re: The Gun Ban List is Out

    Could not believe the prices at Leesport for EBRs and components.

    $300+ for a stripped Stag lower. Nuts.

    Good thing I dumped every weapon on this list that I own in the ocean.
    A Republic, if you can keep it.

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