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December 2nd, 2015, 11:34 AM #1
Anti-Gun Nuts Want Obama To Declare A Gun Violence State Of Emergency
The National Gun Victims Action Council has filed a change.org petition to force president Obama to declare a state of emergency over gun violence. The anti-gun nuts essentially want Obama to put America under martial law so he can then strip us of our 2nd Amendment rights. Yes, this thing is as crazy as it sounds:
Americans are in the midst of a gun violence epidemic. The National Emergencies Act gives the president the power and responsibility to declare a state of emergency when the government lacks the procedures and capacity to address an unchecked natural or man-made public health epidemic.
How much more must Americans endure? Domestic military installations have been attacked; media members have been murdered on camera. Shootings have recently occurred at church prayer meetings, in movie theaters, restaurants, department stores, offices, factories, schools, colleges, national parks and while driving along major US highways.
We ask that you declare a state of emergency to protect us from the gun violence epidemic now. The public space has become Russian roulette–every place is a potential risk. When the H191 flu hospitalized 20,000 people and killed 1,000, you used your power and declared a state of emergency.
Actually, violent crime has been on a steady decline since the early 1990’s and that includes crimes committed with firearms. The truth is, the US is safer now than it has been in decades. The media hyping “gun violence” isn’t the same thing as an epidemic.
With a generally premise that is flawed, the NGVAC supports its bullshit with more bullshit:
We ask that you declare a state of emergency to protect us from the gun violence epidemic now. The public space has become Russian roulette–every place is a potential risk. When the H191 flu hospitalized 20,000 people and killed 1,000, you used your power and declared a state of emergency.
Yearly, The Gun Violence Epidemic Causes: 10,000 homicides, 70,000 wounded, 18,000 suicides, 2,000 accidental deaths
There is more like 8,000 gun-related homicides every year.
Costs of the Gun Violence Epidemic: Annual: $229 Billion, Each Homicide = $441,000, Hospitalization = $583,000
If the gun violence epidemic is fictional (and it is), then so are these numbers.
Guns sold at gun shows, over the internet or through private sales do not require a background check. These represent 40% of the guns sold, and we do not know if these people should be prohibited purchasers
You buy a gun over the Internet or at a gun show from a licensed dealer; you go through a background check. The 40% number has been debunked so many times and yet the liberals still insist it’s true.
Countries with strong gun laws and our national statistics show “law- abiding” citizens cause most gun violence. Only 7% to 8% of US gun homicides are gang based — most mass shooters are legal gun owners.
WTF? Law-abiding citizens cause the most gun violence? And by these kooks estimates it is around 92% of all gun violence? The liars at NGVAC provide a link to the FBI’s 2103 murder circumstances statistics, which doesn’t come close to proving that most gun violence is committed by law-abiding citizens mostly because it is not true.
Rather than attracting gun crime “gun-free zones” repel it. That is why courts and the headquarters of all major U.S. corporations (including the NRA) ban guns.
The NRA doesn’t ban guns anywhere, but besides that lie, show me one single case of a mass murderer passing up a “gun-free zone” because there was a sign out front.
Now that they’ve proven themselves to be completely full of shit, here’s what they want Obama to do:
Remedy: Declare a National State of Emergency and, among other things, consider:
1. The requirements and standards for people to be carrying guns outside their homes.
2. That parents who own guns be held accountable as accomplices for gun violence their children cause with the parent’s guns.
3. That gun trafficking be made a felony to reduce the gun violence epidemic in the inner cities.
4. Appointing a commission to address this epidemic, such commission to exclude members of the gun lobbies, who profit from the epidemic they’ve caused and do everything they can to keep it going.
That’s not much of a list of demands considering most of that stuff is already a reality. There are standards for people who carry a firearm outside their homes. Parents are held responsible when their children do something stupid with a gun they own. Gun trafficking is a crime, it’s just rarely prosecuted.
And if you think about it, there already is a commission to oppose the NRA and the Constitutional right of gun ownership. We call that commission the Democratic Party.
Clearly the National Gun Victims Action Council should change their name to the National Poor Education Victims Council because they are ignorant and poorly informed. Why would someone be so outraged over something that they don’t have a clue about? There isn’t one part of this petition that isn’t wrong. Brush up on the issue and then get back to us.
http://downtrend.com/71superb/anti-g...e-of-emergencyMikeP
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December 2nd, 2015, 12:08 PM #2
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Oh for fucks sake.
All I read was the tread title. Reading more will just... no, ain't worth it.I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!
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December 2nd, 2015, 12:09 PM #3
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What a freaking tool.
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December 2nd, 2015, 12:20 PM #4
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2. That parents who own guns be held accountable as accomplices for gun violence their children cause with the parent’s guns.Rules are written in the stone,
Break the rules and you get no bones,
all you get is ridicule, laughter,
and a trip to the house of pain.
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December 2nd, 2015, 12:59 PM #5
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^^^^ God's Gonna Gitcha For That!
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Re: Anti-Gun Nuts Want Obama To Declare A Gun Violence State Of Emergency
In the years 2012 and 2013 there were about 33,000 people killed in auto accidents in the USA. About 3 million people are injured in auto accidents each year. So maybe we need a state of emergency over motor vehicles before we declare on over guns. The National Gun Victims Action Council is just on a campaign to get donations to fuel its operation. A Change.org petition is a good way to attract donations because the rabid anti-gun folks will actually perceive it to be a meaningful exercise in gun control efforts. Of course, it will not be anything more than a fundraiser.
If I recall correctly, the National Emergency Act gives Congress the right to block the declaration of a state of emergency, and if the NGVAC thinks it would not do so it has its head up its butt.
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December 2nd, 2015, 03:22 PM #7
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I did not read the whole article, just the title and the opening paragraph. But what I read is DRASTICALLY misleading. The Change.org nutcases are not the ones who want Obama to issue this state of emergency.
Obama himself wants to do it.
It is his wet dream and it is what his presidency has been aiming at for 7 years. It is the quickest and best way to gain power. Declaring a state of emergency is his ticket to dictatorship. It is the path all dictators take when transitioning from elected leader to leader-for-life.
Is there any doubt that if a Sept. 11 style event took place during his term he would have gone that route? And then found ways to extend the "emergency?" If something like that were to happen in the next 14 months (and he is shaping America and its enemies directly on course for it to happen) he absolutely will make it a state of emergency, and a solid half the country will like it.Sic semper tyrannis
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December 2nd, 2015, 03:55 PM #8
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It will happen shortly...
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December 2nd, 2015, 03:59 PM #9
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If they want to see what gun violence looks like, they should go ahead and try to confiscate the guns.
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December 2nd, 2015, 04:11 PM #10
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He just might do it now with the shooting in San Bernadino.
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