Targetmaster

[exceltoexcel]

m sorry I'm still trying to fiind what I made up the don't allow white box nor blazzer nor carry! if they allow conceled well their policy doesn't say that! Anti-gun gun store Your entitled to your opinion I'm just stating what I read on a big sign in the store and the guy said to me within 2 minutes of walking in the store! Yes, I turned around and walked out!

[synergy]

Originally Posted by exceltoexcel

m sorry I'm still trying to fiind what I made up the don't allow white box nor blazzer nor carry! if they allow conceled well their policy doesn't say that! Anti-gun gun store Your entitled to your opinion I'm just stating what I read on a big sign in the store and the guy said to me within 2 minutes of walking in the store! Yes, I turned around and walked out!

So, you got it all figured out in 2 minutes, huh?

I already explained things in words, perhaps pictures will help...as you still don't get it.

Bought from Walmart, NOT OK:


Bought from places other than Walmart, OK:



Aluminum cased ammo, NOT OK:


Brass cased ammo, OK:


http://www.targetmaster.com/range.html




So, "No WWB or Blazer allowed" is NOT true.

The sign you reference out front makes no mention of concealed carry, nor do the employees.... as they're fine with it.

If you want to understand things a little better, read this:
http://www.targetmaster.com/range_rules.html

So, you want to buy ammo from Walmart...the most anti-gun store which still sells ammo and some gun...yet complain that a full service gun store that discourages open-carry in the showroom is "anti gun"...while you've spent a grand total of 2 mins there, and don't even come close to understanding their policies?

I have a tough time taking your complaints seriously, as your "anti-gun" claims are quite ironic when you want to complain about not being able to shoot ammo bought from Walmart. You don't understand their policy on concealed weapons in the store, either.

Maybe you should spend enough time there to actually understand what their policy is, before you shout insults at them from behind your computer. Or don't. But when you post BS and half-truths, you should expect other people to call you out on it.

[exceltoexcel]

Your bull-crap about half-truths is just that...

That's like me calling you out on half truths when you say they allow Remington. I could scream and yell that you're telling half truths because they don't allow .50BMG (at least that's the impression I get from their rules) which makes perfect sense since a barrett probably wouldn't be safe to shoot in there. You'd be right to call BS and I'm calling BS on you! Everyone with two brain cells and some common sense knows what I was talking about all along, even you knew. They know I meant WWBVP and Blazzer non-brass..

Just to make you happy.

They don't allow some blazzer and wwb value packs.

Sorry I wasn't perfectly clear.

Rolling my eyes into my head.

The sign says no carry the guy at the counter said no carry.

I'm sure you're now goin' to say that's a half truth, they allow police officers to carry or you to open carry when you're on the line!!

They are, IMO, an anti-gun gun store.

Walmart pays more on average than mom and pop places.

Wal-Mart provides their employees with health care plans and free or reduced Rxs!

I don't know but I doubt target master does anything near what walmart does for their employees!

Walmart even has to hold her job if she has to go in the hospital or her dad dies.

Does targetmaster? Do they even offer disability insurance?

Walmart specifically allows open carry or rather since you seem to not know exactly what I mean They allow carrying of firearms within the laws of the jurisdiction they are under. DOES THE GUN STORE, TARGET MASTER, ALLOW IT nooooooooo. Nice!

All that and targetmaster prices on Winchester was 50-100% more than walmart!

so yeah I'll go to wal-mart so the senior citizen greater can get free rx's, the checkout girl can get health care for her and her baby while making more than at the typical mom and pop store while they save me $$$ and support my second and article22 rights instead of a gun store that doesn't!

After I saw the sign and he told me no carry AND I was concealed i told him I wouldn't support an anti-gun guns store and walked out.. Maybe my friend did? It was a year maybe two ago but basically, Screw them!

Originally Posted by synergy

So, you got it all figured out in 2 minutes, huh?

I already explained things in words, perhaps pictures will help...as you still don't get it.

Bought from Walmart, NOT OK:


Bought from places other than Walmart, OK:



Aluminum cased ammo, NOT OK:


Brass cased ammo, OK:


http://www.targetmaster.com/range.html




So, "No WWB or Blazer allowed" is NOT true.

The sign you reference out front makes no mention of concealed carry, nor do the employees.... as they're fine with it.

If you want to understand things a little better, read this:
http://www.targetmaster.com/range_rules.html

So, you want to buy ammo from Walmart...the most anti-gun store which still sells ammo and some gun...yet complain that a full service gun store that discourages open-carry in the showroom is "anti gun"...while you've spent a grand total of 2 mins there, and don't even come close to understanding their policies?

I have a tough time taking your complaints seriously, as your "anti-gun" claims are quite ironic when you want to complain about not being able to shoot ammo bought from Walmart. You don't understand their policy on concealed weapons in the store, either.

Maybe you should spend enough time there to actually understand what their policy is, before you shout insults at them from behind your computer. Or don't. But when you post BS and half-truths, you should expect other people to call you out on it.

[exceltoexcel]

I will never patronise a gun store that prohibited carry unless it was for a FFL transfer and I'm stuck doing it!!

I'd rather eat Ben and jerrys than shoot at a gun shop that, IMO, acts like they might sign the bloomburg anti-gun compact..

[synergy]

Originally Posted by exceltoexcel

your being rediculous. So just to make you happy. they font allow some blazzer and wwb value packs. Sorry I wasn't perfectly clear. Rolling my eyes into my head. The sign says no carry the guy at the counter said no carry. I'm sure you're now goin to say that's a half truth they allow police officers to carry!!

Nope, we've asked officers who weren't on duty not to open carry before. Never told anyone they couldn't conceal, though.

Also it doesn't say anything about it on the front sign....I'll post a pic soon, for you. It says "all firearms must be cased and unloaded prior to entry."

This comes down to a safety policy. There are always yahoos who ONLY carry when they go to a range, or a gunstore. Often, these yahoos go handling their loaded firearms in the store, or behind the line on the range.

If TM were a private range, where we screened everyone for safe gunhandling habits...maybe things would be different. So long as it's a public store/ range....you'll have newbies doing unsafe things. Their "if we can see it, we want to know it's empty" policy, is designed with this in mind.

They are IMO a antigun gun store. Walmart pays more on average than mom and pop places they specifically allow open carry and they provide their empktees with health care and free or reduced Rxs! I don't know but I doubt target master does this so yeah I'll go to walmart do the senior citEn greater can get free rx's. the checkout girl can get healthcare for her and her baby while making more than at the typical mom and pop store. walmart even has to hold her job if she has to go in the hospital or her dad dies. Does targetmaster? do they even offer disability insurance? All that and targetmaster prices on Winchester was 50-100% more than walmart! Not that it mattered after I saw and he told me no carry I was but conceled. Screw them!

Walmart sells that ammo for cheaper than local stores can buy it for. So they're either selling it at a loss, to get people in the door....or have negotiated a contract to buy ammo from Winchester for WAY less than we can.

Walmart doesn't support the second amendment...but you really seem to support them....so why cry about TM being "anti-gun"? I don't get it.

Or it is just all about open carry for you?

If so, by all means, shop at a store which doesn't mind if you open carry. But don't try to make something up like:

Originally Posted by exceltoexcel

They don't allow you to carry they don't allow you to shoot white box IMO they don't support the second amendment nor the PA consitution nor PA law!!!

[exceltoexcel]

I'm not making one solitary fucking thing up.. Don't go calling me a liar when everything I said is exactly what an employee said to me or I read. I might not have every single detail perfect but damn close enough!!!

About two years ago isn't there a big sign over the counter that lists a bunch of rules and one basically says "no carry"

Either Way...

How do you carry and comply with this?

It says "all firearms must be cased and unloaded prior to entry."

I guess I unload it and put it in a case and then shove it down my pants.. LOL

I call BS on the CC, maybe you're just saying it now because you don't want to continually piss off your or other potential customers.

It easy to do, pull down your signs and come back here an post that you allow us to carry!

I'm not worried about the WWBVP I can load up all my mags and find empty WWB 50rnd boxes to fill with them!

I'm pissed because the range looks great in the pictures but I cannot go there because you don't allow carry.

Let me tell you do a search you already have pissed off your customers and not just me...

Sorry but if you allow CC this sign shouldn't be there AND the employees shouldn't tell you they don't allow carry..

I wasn't open carring the guy never knew I was CCing..

I just left and said I don't go to anti-gun gun stores...

Walmart has a deal with winchester on volume!!
What is it with hating WWB?
If I reload it costs less than WWBVP!!!
Are you guys going to ban reloads soon?
The price of my ammo shouldn't come into play.

To say no carry, but buy a gun, is insane and IMO anti-gun!!

Originally Posted by synergy

Nope, we've asked officers who weren't on duty not to open carry before. Never told anyone they couldn't conceal, though.

Also it doesn't say anything about it on the front sign....I'll post a pic soon, for you. It says "all firearms must be cased and unloaded prior to entry."

This comes down to a safety policy. There are always yahoos who ONLY carry when they go to a range, or a gunstore. Often, these yahoos go handling their loaded firearms in the store, or behind the line on the range.

If TM were a private range, where we screened everyone for safe gunhandling habits...maybe things would be different. So long as it's a public store/ range....you'll have newbies doing unsafe things. Their "if we can see it, we want to know it's empty" policy, is designed with this in mind.


Walmart sells that ammo for cheaper than local stores can buy it for. So they're either selling it at a loss, to get people in the door....or have negotiated a contract to buy ammo from Winchester for WAY less than we can.

Walmart doesn't support the second amendment...but you really seem to support them....so why cry about TM being "anti-gun"? I don't get it.

Or it is just all about open carry for you?

If so, by all means, shop at a store which doesn't mind if you open carry. But don't try to make something up like:

[Paradigm]

Are you guys still going at it?


Okay...just checking.

[synergy]

Originally Posted by exceltoexcel

I'm not making one solitary fucking thing up.. Don't go calling me a liar when everything I said is exactly what an employee said to me or I read. I might not have every single detail perfect but damn close enough!!!

About two years ago isn't there a big sign over the counter that lists a bunch of rules and one basically says "no carry"

Either Way...

How do you carry and comply with this?

No, there wasn't. And no, you're not close enough.

I guess I unload it and put it in a case and then shove it down my pants.. LOL

I call BS on the CC, maybe you're just saying it now because you don't want to continually piss off your or other potential customers.

No, that's never been the policy. You spent 2 minutes there, I spent 3 years.

It easy to do, pull down your signs and come back here an post that you allow us to carry!

Don't work there anymore, and all of their regulars know they can carry there. Plenty of folks come in and ask them if they can carry...the employees say they have no problem with concealed carry...and that's that.

I'm not worried about the WWBVP I can load up all my mags and find empty WWB 50rnd boxes to fill with them!

Yup, continuing to put money in Walmarts pockets, and bitching about real gun shops being "anti gun", LOL.

They'll toss you out if you get caught. Not like it's the first time someone thought of that.

I'm pissed because the range looks great in the pictures but I cannot go there because you don't allow carry.

You clearly are convinced your right, despite repeated explanations that you don't understand what you're talking about.

Let me tell you do a search you already have pissed off your customers and not just me...

I'm aware of it. I did what I could while I was there to provide good service. People on this board who know me from there, seem to agree.
If you don't like the store, don't shop there. Just don't spread rumors about the store...give legitimate gripes. You want to badmouth the store based on stuff that isn't true....that's all I'm taking issue with.

Sorry but if you allow CC this sign shouldn't be there AND the employees shouldn't tell you they don't allow carry..

They don't, and the sign doesn't say you can't carry concealed. I dunno what 1 person might have said to you once, god knows when....but in the 3 years I was there, we NEVER hassled ANYONE over concealed carry in the store.

I wasn't open carring the guy never knew I was CCing..

I just left and said I don't go to anti-gun gun stores...

Walmart has a deal with winchester on volume!!
What is it with hating WWB?
If I reload it costs less than WWBVP!!!
Are you guys going to ban reloads soon?
The price of my ammo shouldn't come into play.

This is WHY they allow jacketed reloads, but not WALMART ammo. You can come in with a receipt from Dicks/ Cabella's, etc showing that you bought the ammo for cheap as hell. It has nothing to do with price, it has to do with politics. How much more plainly can I put this? You've missed it the first 3 times.... I guess it doesn't fit into your "anti-gun gunstore" argument, does it?

To say no carry, but buy a gun, is insane and IMO anti-gun!!

I'll post you a pic of the sign later this week after I shoot there again.

There is NOTHING on there about carry.

[exceltoexcel]

Originally Posted by Paradigm

Are you guys still going at it?


Okay...just checking.

Yes I get pissy about being called a liar or more exactly a half-truth teller when to a normal person what I said is apperant.

I get even more pissy about this place when I had an employee look me in the face and tell me I can't carry in my gun in a gun store..

[exceltoexcel]

There is no way I can CC and comply with the rules as you state them and I was directly told that I could not Carry, period.

"It says "all firearms must be cased and unloaded prior to entry." "

Everyone with common sense pretty much knew exactly what I was talking about except you.. Hum...

What about walmart is anti-gun? Many sell rifles where there is a market, like where I am, they sell bullets and they allow open and conceled carry..