22 rimfire

[lonehiker]

i have a savage mark 2 heavy barrel, w/6x24 target scope, it's ok but can't shoot as well as a CZ or a 52 winchester or tula

it shoots best with sub-sonic ammo at 25 yards 3/8 groups 50 yards dime groups all with a few fliers. 100 yards we shoot sticks if side-walk chalk after sighting in, i do about 50 to 60 % the Tula and the win 52 and the cz do much better

for the money a russian Tula .22 lr shoots any ammo just as well or as better as my savage (very ammo fussy)

[Montell C. Williams]

A buddy of mine has a Anschutz sporter he has had since about 1965 and it was always the best shooting .22 sporter i've seen, last winter I got CZ 452 American and it out shoots his anschutz and is more stable, and supprisingly the first shot with CCI mini-mag hp goes right to point of aim. Bulk ammo almost shoots good enough but has too many fliers to be counted on.

[CZJedi]

Buying a gun has never stopped me from buying another.

[Broomhandle]

Originally Posted by aubie515

I'd disagree with your statement, but it's your opinion. "You" will never know what any rifle is capable of unless you put glass on it and shoot it for groups. Open sights can be fun and a huge challenge. I would take any bet with someone that says they can outshoot me with iron sights, while I used optics. Well, the average person...I'm not talking about a professional shooter. LOL

My point was that the iron sights would be better for developing marksmanship and skill, but just my opinion. I think shooting can be more than just hitting the target with the latest gear...

[SharpShooter88]

You are very right. I respect your opinion and agree. I learned to shoot with iron sights and for that I am thankful for I believe it made me a better shot than I would have been if I started off with just a scoped gun.

I was just stating that at some point in time he MAY want to get optics. I love scopes on lower caliber arms...They are good fun.

The decision is his...Not mine I am just saying what I would do.

[Lycanthrope]

Originally Posted by SharpShooter88

I think you could reduce your groups to the size of say....a dime...or less with good optics and decent ammo. I say decent ammo because I know that some people consider walmarts remington ammo to be good...But it is not. Use Federal and you will see a difference in the group size...Trust me. But yes once you stretch out your yardage to 50 even 75 to 100 yards you will want to get a good scope for that.

Just my opinion

Homeboy, try some Wolf MT...or Eley and you are going to throw out all that Federal junk.


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