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If you wish to call it cowarding then so be it. I strongly dissagree with that but you are entitled to your opinion just as I am about Sunset. I stand on my opinion of that not being safe as I have seen people holding guns sideways looking at them when people are on the side of them. I did not mind it about 25 years ago when the old man Antoine had it along with the 100 yard rifle ranges. At that time you did not have the weekend warriors coming up who shoot a couple times a year. I hope you continue to enjoy Sunset and Happy Halloween! |
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I am new to this and sometimes I mix up the terms magazine and clip, I am working on it. Last edited by LifeInPa; 3 Weeks Ago at 06:32 PM. |
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+1 on the rep.
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Sunset hills is what it is. It isn't the best place I have ever been, and it isn't the worst. A couple of the ROs are very friendly and stay off your shadow, and a couple, especially one, are ginormous asswipes who literally breath on your neck. If you want to shoot your rifle, it is this place, a SGL range, or a private club, make your choice.
As far as safety, if the place is full, odds are it is full because inexperienced, never touched a gun before, people are there. If it is relatively empty, odds are the locals are using it. The relaxed ROs make the place fairly safe, while the asswipes make it more dangerous, because they make even experienced shooters nervous and aggravated. I know of at least one RO that died while removing a firearm from storage, and I think there was another a few years back, so that doesn't speak well for the RO training mindset, and if that is lacking, well, I will not go there when they are supposed to be taming the homeboys... No reason to get crazy defending or bad mouthing the place, recognize it for what it is, a tourist attraction on the weekends and everyday in the summer, and a good deal on weekdays the rest of the time, and make your decisions accordingly. My $.02
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Search around the forum for sunset threads and you will see what the real scoop is. I think headcase gave a pretty unbiased review, it's on point. The second incident Headcase mentioned, an employee "shot himself in the head while cleaning his handgun" last year, then "walked several miles along the road way with a gaping and bleeding head wound, where he collapsed and then died in the woods right next to his house". All the while in the miles he walked home, staggering, holding his head, covered in blood, nobody spotted him, and no calls to 911 were made. Take it for what it is.
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Thanks for for sharing, if I misunderstood anything you said I am truly sorry. Edit: My apologizes for being rude, Happy Halloween. Last edited by LifeInPa; 3 Weeks Ago at 08:55 PM. Reason: Problems resolved. |
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Here's the list of previous "problems with Sunset threads":
http://forum.pafoa.org/ranges-18/726...l-morning.html (Bad experience at Sunset Hill this morning!) http://forum.pafoa.org/ranges-18/303...l-take-ii.html (Sunset Hill - take II) http://forum.pafoa.org/ranges-18/244...hite-arse.html (Well Sunset Hill Can Kiss My Lilly White Arse!) You may have had a great time this time, we did too but sooner or later one of these asswipe "up your ass" RO's are going to show you what the place is really like. It runs about 70% bad / 30% bad Take it from people that have been going there for quite some time. We still go once in a while but NEVER on weekends and only when we are so desperate to shoot it's not funny ... and that's from people that live literally 10 minutes from it. |
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I chose this range because I though it was my only option, other than the SGL ranges which suck IMO. I have 2-3 private clubs that I filed away I might check them out, but if you or anyone else would like to list a few more that have reasonable rates I would be grateful it. Quote:
Don't worry about it, I am sorry if I was rude also. Those are some serious problems what I don't understand is how they are open if the place is so dangerous. Last edited by LifeInPa; 3 Weeks Ago at 08:53 PM. |
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Last edited by LifeInPa; 3 Weeks Ago at 08:54 PM. |
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