Re: READ FIRST: Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania
Can i make the assumption that the "Where you can and cannot carry weapons in Pa," originally posted in 2007 has been continually updated??
I would like to suggest revision dates, unless i missed them
Re: READ FIRST: Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by
Bills340
Can i make the assumption that the "Where you can and cannot carry weapons in Pa," originally posted in 2007 has been continually updated??
I would like to suggest revision dates, unless i missed them
If you look down at the very bottom of the first post, you will see that it was last edited 5 days ago.
Re: READ FIRST: Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania
Thanks, i saw that but wasnt sure if that was an update to the AG link that was messed up, or an update to "can, Cannot, kinda hard to folow after 35 pages and 3 years later, thanks again
Re: READ FIRST: Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania
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Bills340
Thanks, i saw that but wasnt sure if that was an update to the AG link that was messed up, or an update to "can, Cannot, kinda hard to folow after 35 pages and 3 years later, thanks again
The AG link to our reciprocal agreements is here. http://attorneygeneral.gov/crime.aspx?id=184
I continuously maintain this sticky thread. At least once a month I review it for necessary changes. Since there have been no positive or negative gun or use of force laws made in years - all info is up to date. However some of the links may be dead due to the host having moved said information. If you come across a dead link, please point out and I will find another source.
Re: READ FIRST: Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania
I believe Item #7 in the OP list of places you cannot carry contains a link that makes no sense to me. :confused:
I was expecting a link to some citation proving carry is forbidden in the places listed within #7, but it just goes to another forum discussion unrelated to the topic.
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Re: READ FIRST: Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania
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Curmudgeon
I believe Item #7 in the OP list of places you cannot carry contains a link that makes no sense to me. :confused:
I was expecting a link to some citation proving carry is forbidden in the places listed within #7, but it just goes to another forum discussion unrelated to the topic.
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If the OP has his page setting set differently than you (or anyone else) such as 100 posts per page, vs someone who has 10 or 20 posts per page, the link he provided will not work.
The actual post he was linking is:
http://forum.pafoa.org/653543-post-220.html
OP, I suggest changing link#7 to the one above.
Re: READ FIRST: Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania
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Pa. Patriot
If the OP has his page setting set differently than you (or anyone else) such as 100 posts per page, vs someone who has 10 or 20 posts per page, the link he provided will not work.
The actual post he was linking is:
http://forum.pafoa.org/653543-post-220.html
OP, I suggest changing link#7 to the one above.
Changed as suggested!! Thanks!
Re: READ FIRST: Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania
I dont see a lot of discussion on here about the FEDERAL gun free safety zone law which basically says within a 1000 ft ( roughly a half mile) of a K-12 school u cant carry a loaded firearm whether you have a license or not, anywhere in U..S which is almost impossible in some cities, anyone want to take this on??
Re: READ FIRST: Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania
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Bills340
I dont see a lot of discussion on here about the FEDERAL gun free safety zone law which basically says within a 1000 ft ( roughly a half mile) of a K-12 school u cant carry a loaded firearm whether you have a license or not, anywhere in U..S which is almost impossible in some cities, anyone want to take this on??
Bold above added by me.
You're understanding of the law is not correct. Federal law exempts those who are "licensed by the state that the institution is in".
Re: READ FIRST: Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by
Bills340
I dont see a lot of discussion on here about the FEDERAL gun free safety zone law which basically says within a 1000 ft ( roughly a half mile) of a K-12 school u cant carry a loaded firearm whether you have a license or not, anywhere in U..S which is almost impossible in some cities, anyone want to take this on??
Sorry, but your assumption is incorrect. If you have a license from the state in which the school is located you are exempt.
Here is the law
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(q)(1) The Congress finds and declares that -
(A) crime, particularly crime involving drugs and guns, is a
pervasive, nationwide problem;
(B) crime at the local level is exacerbated by the interstate
movement of drugs, guns, and criminal gangs;
(C) firearms and ammunition move easily in interstate commerce
and have been found in increasing numbers in and around schools,
as documented in numerous hearings in both the Committee on the
Judiciary (!3) the House of Representatives and the Committee on
the Judiciary of the Senate;
(D) in fact, even before the sale of a firearm, the gun, its
component parts, ammunition, and the raw materials from which
they are made have considerably moved in interstate commerce;
(E) while criminals freely move from State to State, ordinary
citizens and foreign visitors may fear to travel to or through
certain parts of the country due to concern about violent crime
and gun violence, and parents may decline to send their children
to school for the same reason;
(F) the occurrence of violent crime in school zones has
resulted in a decline in the quality of education in our country;
(G) this decline in the quality of education has an adverse
impact on interstate commerce and the foreign commerce of the
United States;
(H) States, localities, and school systems find it almost
impossible to handle gun-related crime by themselves - even
States, localities, and school systems that have made strong
efforts to prevent, detect, and punish gun-related crime find
their efforts unavailing due in part to the failure or inability
of other States or localities to take strong measures; and
(I) the Congress has the power, under the interstate commerce
clause and other provisions of the Constitution, to enact
measures to ensure the integrity and safety of the Nation's
schools by enactment of this subsection.
(2)(A) It shall be unlawful for any individual knowingly to
possess a firearm that has moved in or that otherwise affects
interstate or foreign commerce at a place that the individual
knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone.
(B) Subparagraph (A) does not apply to the possession of a
firearm -
(i) on private property not part of school grounds;
(ii) if the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do
so by the State in which the school zone is located or a
political subdivision of the State, and the law of the State or
political subdivision requires that, before an individual obtains
such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or
political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified
under law to receive the license;
(iii) that is -
(I) not loaded; and
(II) in a locked container, or a locked firearms rack that is
on a motor vehicle;
(iv) by an individual for use in a program approved by a school
in the school zone;
(v) by an individual in accordance with a contract entered into
between a school in the school zone and the individual or an
employer of the individual;
(vi) by a law enforcement officer acting in his or her official
capacity; or
(vii) that is unloaded and is possessed by an individual while
traversing school premises for the purpose of gaining access to
public or private lands open to hunting, if the entry on school
premises is authorized by school authorities.
(3)(A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B), it shall be
unlawful for any person, knowingly or with reckless disregard for
the safety of another, to discharge or attempt to discharge a
firearm that has moved in or that otherwise affects interstate or
foreign commerce at a place that the person knows is a school zone.
(B) Subparagraph (A) does not apply to the discharge of a firearm
-
(i) on private property not part of school grounds;
(ii) as part of a program approved by a school in the school
zone, by an individual who is participating in the program;
(iii) by an individual in accordance with a contract entered
into between a school in a school zone and the individual or an
employer of the individual; or
(iv) by a law enforcement officer acting in his or her official
capacity.
(4) Nothing in this subsection shall be construed as preempting
or preventing a State or local government from enacting a statute
establishing gun free school zones as provided in this subsection.