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At what point would you buy an expensive safe?
Title sums it up, I want to know at what $$ value in your collection did you end up purchasing a solid safe? (liberty Franklin 50 for me) I have a cabelas 18 gun now that’s packed full of stuff and I have several not in the safe.
So Ladies and Gents at what dollar value did you face the music and drop 2k+ on a gun safe?
Edit: I have all of my high dollar/ sentimental guns in my current safe. 2 pythons, a pre 64 Winchester, and a few shotguns that were my grandfathers, few other guns that are somewhat valuable. That’s the stuff I want to protect most which is why it’s in the safe. I’d estimate the stuff not in my safe at a 4-6k. Less than the cost of a franklin 50 in gloss black :cool:
I feel slightly foolish having that $$ value of guns not in a safe. I’m house shopping now so once o move I’ll most likely be getting a big boy safe.
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All depends on how much you can afford to loose not having a safe.
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To me a safe is more than protecting a dollar value. You can have ten two hundred dollar guns that needs a home.
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I have heirlooms that don't have enormous value to anyone but me. I would hate for them to be riding under a dealer's front seat. Good is subjective. A crappy Sentry locker will defeat a smash and grab junky. The finest safe money can buy won't defeat professionals with time. Consider fire as well.
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The second I could afford it
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HKusp 45
The second I could afford it
This. Mine was a planned purchase since the collection hit $1k, and actually purchased somewhere around a $2k collection. But having a kid and seeing a friends house burn down kicked it into overdrive (I.e. stopped spending on more guns, started safe shopping).
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Your question is a bit askew. Your thread topic specifies a higher end safe, but your OP says spend $2000 or more. It does not have to be either OR. You can save a LOT of money buying a used safe, and there are plenty available.
My first safe was a Browning from a big box store..got it for something like $900 out the door. I put maybe $2500-$3000 worth of guns in it.
My second safe was a Remington (made by Liberty) from Craigslist. New it would cost $4500 plus tax and delivery and whatever else. But I got it for $1100, all in with the cost of having it re-keyed and changing the combo. It has the same guns in it as the first one.
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free
Your question is a bit askew. Your thread topic specifies a higher end safe, but your OP says spend $2000 or more. It does not have to be either OR. You can save a LOT of money buying a used safe, and there are plenty available.
My first safe was a Browning from a big box store..got it for something like $900 out the door. I put maybe $2500-$3000 worth of guns in it.
My second safe was a Remington (made by Liberty) from Craigslist. New it would cost $4500 plus tax and delivery and whatever else. But I got it for $1100, all in with the cost of having it re-keyed and changing the combo. It has the same guns in it as the first one.
I wanted to at least put a dollar value on it... I have been looking for a safe that fits the bill used but no luck so far. I’ve found a few other deals on nice stuff that is the same size as mine but that wouldn’t do me any good unless I ran 2 safes.
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I sold safe #1 above before relocating to PA, simply because I didn’t want to move it thousands of miles.
I bought safe #2 sight unseen on CL. Arranged to have to brought to where my wife was living in PA, told her what to look for, etc. She (or me) didn’t have to lift a finger to have to put in the garage. Once I arrived months later, I inspected the safe and found it was much much better than what was advertised. In the overall scheme of things, it was as if I teleported my safe thousands of miles, upgraded it significantly, and for only marginal cost (:
I routinely see TL-15 and Better rated safes going for cheap on CL. Way better deals than new gun safes, and with typically more security. I have seen a lot of safes that I dearly wanted, and would have happily bought, but I have no need for them and nowhere to put them.
Put some effort into CL and you will find your huckleberry.
But as for your question and threshold...my first safe cost about 1/3rd of the guns I put in it. By that standard, if I had $10K worth of guns, I wouldn’t blink at spending $3K on a safe. If I had $20K plus in guns, I wouldn’t blink at spending $5K on a safe, ignoring all other factors.
As for running two safes...if you have room for one, you have room for two. It also cuts your risk of someone breaking into one.
Worth pointing out: I like safes. Ever since I was a small child (;
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I wouldn't spend big money on a safe unless I had guns that are pretty rare or had significant sentimental value to me. Since I don't really have any of the aforementioned guns, what I do have is a insurance policy. I do have a safe, but it was inherited and is not an expensive model. It only serves me as a cabinet and a deterrent to any unsophisticated thieves.
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My safe cost 217K. Its built into my house. Well hidden and well stocked.
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Marcus99
I wouldn't spend big money on a safe unless I had guns that are pretty rare or had significant sentimental value to me. Since I don't really have any of the aforementioned guns, what I do have is a insurance policy. I do have a safe, but it was inherited and is not an expensive model. It only serves me as a cabinet and a deterrent to any unsophisticated thieves.
^^^^This in red^^^^
I have moderately decent safes, security cameras, alarms, physical deterrents, etc., but I also know I can't plan for every contingency, so I have an insurance policy that covers everything. I have guns that I don't want to lose, but nothing that isn't replaceable. At the end of the day they're just metal and wood (or plastic).
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As soon as I start showing pictures of my valuable collection on Internet forums...
and/or start advertising all over my personal vehicle as to what I may own so people can follow me home and case the joint...
(Neither applies to me, lol.)
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I have said before on other forums....it all depends on your threat level and reason for owning a safe. Very few safes will survive a determined thief with the tools and time to use them.
The biggest threat level/ownership reason for most of us is:
(a) the 'smash and grab' thief, and
(b) keeping little fingers in the house off the hardware
Neither of the above have either the time nor inclination for ripping a safe from the wall and dragging it to a waiting pickup truck, or sitting in the house for an hour or so going after the safe with a saw, grinder, or pry bar.
I've always used one of the sheetmetal cabinet/lockers screwed to the floor and wall. For me its been an adequate answer for (a) and (b).
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3 $500 (10-12yrs ago) Sentry Safes , bolted together , on the second floor. Yinz ain't taking 'em!
If I had a dry basement , I would have a reinforced concrete block wall and steel door vault.
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I don't own any guns because I thought that was illegal. I keep all valuables in a safety deposit box.
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JenniferG
I don't own any guns because I thought that was illegal. I keep all valuables in a safety deposit box.
In all seriousness, if anyone has a safety deposit box, get rid of it immediately and get your own safe. That was one of the biggest pains in my ass after my dad died.
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Ronin
^^^^This in red^^^^
I have moderately decent safes, security cameras, alarms, physical deterrents, etc., but I also know I can't plan for every contingency, so I have an insurance policy that covers everything. I have guns that I don't want to lose, but nothing that isn't replaceable. At the end of the day they're just metal and wood (or plastic).
Insurance does not cover cash, bullion, etc. The value of which far exceeds the value of guns in the safe for many people.
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free
Insurance does not cover cash, bullion, etc. The value of which far exceeds the value of guns in the safe for many people.
I keep all of that in a treasure chest buried on a desert island.
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Ronin
I keep all of that in a treasure chest buried on a desert island.
Hope it isn’t the same one I use.
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Emptymag
That's a great family photo.... :cool:
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I did when I outgrew my fancy gun cabinet! Didn’t know the value of my collection but I knew I needed something else!
Have a good sized National and never regretted the purchase!
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Emptymag
Pretty pup...
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I did not consider the cost/value of the firearms when I purchased my safe. I did it because the kid was getting old enough to become curious about EVERYTHING that he could lay his tiny crumb snatching mitts on. That was nearly 20 years ago and I never once regretted the purchase.
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He does not look scary at all he's friggin adorable.
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I did not spend $2K on my safe, but it also was close to 35 years ago. May not be as high end as some of the current offerings, but provides a bit of peace of mind.
Made the investment once I bought my first house, and wanted a secure storage area for assorted valuables. Originally, my camera equipment was likely more expensive than my guns, but that has since changed.
