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This showed up on my facebook feed. https://www.facebook.com/lamont.huds...49719351715635
Should be readable by anybody with or without a facebook account.
It is my understanding the poster is an Act 235 security agent.
For those that don't want to follow the link:
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So I had to get this guy detained for brandishing his FIREARM on one of my
sites. When only thing he had to do is COVER his FIREARM. I have people
who sometimes have their Firearm Exsposed and with a simple
request...CAN YOU PLEASE COVER YOUR FIREARM. My bad old head
good looking out. Then they go on shoping with no Incident. But this
ASSHOLE made it ITS MY RIGHT speach. Active Shooter/senseless killing
is over flooding our nation.This professionals asshole is a license to carry
and a PA AGENT and made it a career on trying to bait Law Enforcement to
a lawsuit. Beware of professional ASSHOLE like this who will get a Law
Enforcement to kill him or get a case out of you.
Is the carrier a member here, and do they need support for a lawsuit against this idiot?
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This post needs a WHOLE LOT of clarification.
"brandishing" ?
"my sites" ?
"My bad old head good looking out." --- What does that even mean ??
"Then they go on shoping with no Incident." --- Isn't that what shoppers should be doing ?
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"My bad old head good looking out." --- What does that even mean ??
It means that person is black, most likely over 50, and he congratulates himself on what he believes was good security officer work. Living in Philadelphia allows you to understand swarthy person vernacular.
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Whoever posted that may have been very, very drunk at the time.
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Originally Posted by
buxbandit
Whoever posted that may have been very, very drunk at the time.
Agreed, or he needs to go back to school and get an education. I'm ACT 235 shift supervisor at my client site. We have a giant sign right inside the doors that says no weapons or photography on site. We also have smaller signs on all the security desks that say no weapons. We've had an off duty policeman come in carrying. We told him he'd have to leave and his answer was that he was a police officer and he could carry. We had to tell him again, no he had to leave unless he was in uniform and on official business. His girlfriend even raised a stink about it stating how she didn't understand why he couldn't come in and she works here and hopefully read the policies when she was hired.
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The Facebook thread gives me a headache.
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It reads like the poster is security, so if that’s the case, he’s acting for the owner of the property.
He was asked to cover, he did not apparently, when their property, so it’s their rules. He was then detained and the police come, which probably would be for trespass, and disorderly conduct, right?
No problem with at that I think.
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The FB poster who's bragging about arresting a guy for open carry, writes prose the way I use telekinesis, which is to say, not well at all.
You can demand that someone leave the property. You can set terms about how they use your property. You can't slap cuffs on people for "brandishing". You can't arrest people for summary trespassing. You can't act like a cop and force people to obey your whims. And his weird use of "agent" and other pseudo-LEO terms makes me wonder if there's a tactical wheelbarrow in his garage.
Act 235 mall cops have all the law enforcement authority of the night shift manager at McDonalds.
I try not to engage tards in complicated discussions, for the same reason I don't try to teach my dogs math. Except that my dogs are less likely to resort to personal insults when they turn out to be too stupid to understand the material.
Finally, that poster has wasted about half his words, because his sentences often convey no fixed meaning.
Seriously, even without dealing with the "English As She Is Spoke" spelling mistakes, this screams "WTF is he trying to say?":
"So I had to get this guy detained for brandishing his FIREARM on one of my sites.
When only thing he had to do is COVER his FIREARM.
I have people who sometimes have their Firearm Exsposed and with a simple request...CAN YOU PLEASE COVER YOUR FIREARM.
My bad old head good looking out.
Then they go on shoping with no Incident.
But this ASSHOLE made it ITS MY RIGHT speach.
Active Shooter/senseless killing is over flooding our nation.
This professionals asshole is a license to carry and a PA AGENT and made it a career on trying to bait Law Enforcement to
a lawsuit.
Beware of professional ASSHOLE like this who will get a Law Enforcement to kill him or get a case out of you."
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The Facebook writer needs to learn how to compose an understandable sentence.
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IF this happened in Pa. there is no brandishing clause in Title 18. and he CANNOT detain him for brandishing. He CAN detain him for refusing to leave (Their house Their rules).
Another thing, A Police Officer does not have to be in uniform to be on "official business"(Plain clothes detail, Detectives ) If the officer was there as a customer then he can be refused entry.
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Third grade level of reading/writing and I'm supposed to give a shit what he thinks?
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The guard sounds like the type of guy who duct tapes trauma plates to his back so that he can protect himself from repeated hits of .308 ammo.
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Originally Posted by
Emptymag
Third grade level of reading/writing and I'm supposed to give a shit what he thinks?
Apparently is was also shared in an Act 235 FB group, and additional details from others who saw it there are that is was at a Philadelpha Walmart. So possibly you may care that they might have to pay out money that would be better used paying you at your winter job?
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lol "my site" not only ends up being a shopping facility but a walmart.
i was expecting a higher end store or a mall... but walmart.
if i recall, walmarts official policy is to follow state laws which is left up to the manager. there is no "only concealed" in X walmart but open carry in Y.
f'ing superoperatormallcop gives us all a bad name.
he'd be removed from my site if he had to work with me, that's if he could even get in. client has an extra process in the contract, to weed out the undesireables.
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Originally Posted by
t1066
Apparently is was also shared in an Act 235 FB group, and additional details from others who saw it there are that is was at a Philadelpha Walmart. So possibly you may care that they might have to pay out money that would be better used paying you at your winter job?
The cop has a body camera on. Must be somewhere in East Division.
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Jesus..I had to read that post on Facebook a few times to decipher what was written...
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We've called the police many times on people at the location I work at, whether it was for destruction of private property, drunk in public, trespassing, graffiti, and even indecent exposure. I don't work at a Walmart though, I'm at a somewhat government facility. I've also never been a part of any of those arrests, they always happened on different shifts than mine. I'm certain this guard likes to think he's high and mighty because somehow he was able to pass the MMPI.
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Originally Posted by
Pag23
Jesus..I had to read that post on Facebook a few times to decipher what was written...
i still don't really get what was written. looks like mall ninja calls police to arrest another mall cop he detained because he was trying to go about his law abiding business.
we need walmart's stance on it.
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Originally Posted by
Statkowski
The Facebook writer needs to learn how to compose an understandable sentence.
C'mon.... If he never posted the world would be a better place. What does polishing that turd get you?
:)
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I've seen two people open carrying at work (Walmart) - one of them three times now.
Nobody bats an eye.
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If the mall ninja was concerned about safety, how does covering the firearm make anyone safer?
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Do you think it might make sense if one were wearing a Mighty shirt when reading the post?
Rick
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Didn't read the FB post, is his name gecko45 ?
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Originally Posted by
streaker69
If the mall ninja was concerned about safety, how does covering the firearm make anyone safer?
it's not actually about being safer. it is about control.
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Originally Posted by
MrBi11
Didn't read the FB post, is his name gecko45 ?
He had a team of SAS assassins though.
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Mall cop has no knowledge of the law and should be fired for his actions. Hope the victim sues the hell out of him and his company.
Interesting...on his FB page, he likes this book, "The New Jim Crow"; - https://www.amazon.com/New-Jim-Crow-.../dp/1595586431
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Once in a great while a book comes along that changes the way we see the world and helps to fuel a nationwide social movement. The New Jim Crow is such a book. Praised by Harvard Law professor Lani Guinier as "brave and bold," this book directly challenges the notion that the election of Barack Obama signals a new era of colorblindness. With dazzling candor, legal scholar Michelle Alexander argues that "we have not ended racial caste in America; we have merely redesigned it." By targeting black men through the War on Drugs and decimating communities of color, the U.S. criminal justice system functions as a contemporary system of racial control—relegating millions to a permanent second-class status—even as it formally adheres to the principle of colorblindness. In the words of Benjamin Todd Jealous, president and CEO of the NAACP, this book is a "call to action."
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Originally Posted by
spandexlurch
he was a police officer and he could carry.
Blue Privilege
Do you have to be able to pass a LTCF background check to be a cop? Every 5 years?
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Originally Posted by
mrat
Blue Privilege
Do you have to be able to pass a LTCF background check to be a cop? Every 5 years?
Is yearly MPO courses and yearly firearm qualification needed for a LTCF ?
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Originally Posted by
Carson
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Originally Posted by
mrat
Blue Privilege
Do you have to be able to pass a LTCF background check to be a cop? Every 5 years?
Is yearly MPO courses and yearly firearm qualification needed for a LTCF ?
https://sayingimages.com/wp-content/...-burn-meme.jpg
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Originally Posted by
Carson
Is yearly MPO courses and yearly firearm qualification needed for a LTCF ?
Does that stop cops from firing 27 rounds and hitting the guy in the arm once....at a gas station with people in it?
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Originally Posted by
Carson
Is yearly MPO courses and yearly firearm qualification needed for a LTCF ?
The question was background checks, not if you can shoot as well as myself. It was an honest question. And no, Rosco, I came out unscathed. Thanks for asking.
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He needs some help with sentence structure. He also looks to be a regular page sharer of stuff from "Occupy democrats."
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Originally Posted by
Carson
Is yearly MPO courses and yearly firearm qualification needed for a LTCF ?
$20 for LTCF
$12 for sash
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OK,And other news Bill caught a 12 lb Fluke On Memorial Day !
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Originally Posted by
father-of-three
He needs some help with sentence structure. He also looks to be a regular page sharer of stuff from "Occupy democrats."
https://memegenerator.net/img/instan...sweet-burn.jpg
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Originally Posted by
McSull
$20 for LTCF
$12 for sash
Got to have the badge....
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so how does dick mall ninja working on behalf of company X in walmart, detaining and calling police on law abiding mallcop patron turn into cop bashing?
wtf?
it sounds like mall ninja that made the post is reaching far out on a limb onto the intent of the person he detained and the leo is only mentioned as being called and appeared in the photo.
for all we know leo could have told mall ninja to get a f'ing life.
am i wrong on this?
and we know nics/pics is ineffective at stopping crime. it is a useless hurdle meant to disarm the law abiding by trapping them in a myriad of minutia.
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Subbing. lol.
I feel an urge to go to WalMart now.
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I OC every time I visit Wally World, either in Indiana (Indiana County) or Ebensburg (Cambria County), neither of which are near "the big city" of Philadelphia.