I finally had a bad OC experience.
For years I've OC without a problem. I OC maybe 40% and CC 60% so, maybe that's why I haven't had an issue until now. I'm a photographer for a living and I went into Philadelphia today to buy some lenses off of someone. I then stopped by Gino's cheesesteaks because I hadn't been there in so long. It was delicious. I had their cheese fries also. I then called my GF and talked on the phone for about a half our after eating. I guess they had been watching me. As I walked over to my car, two officers approached me and asked me if I minded showing my DL and permit for my holstered H&K USP .40 S&W. I was really surprised by this. Did they spot my gun while I was sitting at a table and decided to ask me for various IDs while I was eating or talking on my phone? Wtf? I'm non-confrontational though so, I said sure, and pulled out both forms of ID. Welcome to the city I guess? :/
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I was wearing a light short sleeve flannel and blue jeans. I don't standout in crowds much so it had to be my pistol that was the sole reason for this. I'm just going to forget it and enjoy the holiday.
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Were you OC or CC sitting at Geno's?
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Originally Posted by
Armor90
For years I've OC without a problem. I OC maybe 40% and CC 60% so, maybe that's why I haven't had an issue until now. I'm a photographer for a living and I went into Philadelphia today to buy some lenses off of someone. I then stopped by Gino's cheesesteaks because I hadn't been there in so long. It was delicious. I had their cheese fries also. I then called my GF and talked on the phone for about a half our after eating. I guess they had been watching me. As I walked over to my car, two officers approached me and asked me if I minded showing my DL and permit for my holstered H&K USP .40 S&W. I was really surprised by this. Did they spot my gun while I was sitting at a table and decided to ask me for various IDs while I was eating or talking on my phone? Wtf? I'm non-confrontational though so, I said sure, and pulled out both forms of ID. Welcome to the city I guess? :/
The PA Supreme Court issued a ruling on May 31st of this year in Commonwealth v. Hicks that "the mere sight of a firearm whether oc or cc in and of itself is not a reason to stop and detain someone for investigative purposes" I'm paraphrasing a little but that's the gist. It's going to taking a whopping lawsuit against PPD for them to change course.
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I'm thinking the short sleeve flannel shirt was the RAS.....
Meanwhile; Nikon or Canon?
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But Philly is a City of First Class which requires one OCing to have a CC permit...
If you were somewhere else then there would be a problem...
I only CC in Phila
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Pag23
But Philly is a City of First Class which requires one OCing to have a CC permit...
If you were somewhere else then there would be a problem...
I only CC in Phila
That doesn't matter. The PASC just recently ruled that carrying a gun (open OR concealed), on it's own, is NOT enough to justify a stop/license request.
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Someone at Geno's, either a worker, or patron called the Police because you "had a gun".
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gnbrotz
That doesn't matter. The PASC just recently ruled that carrying a gun (open OR concealed), on it's own, is NOT enough to justify a stop/license request.
But you see, the police can't possibly know of all the laws and court decisions. At least, not the way that you and I are supposed to know and abide by them all.
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Originally Posted by
gnbrotz
That doesn't matter. The PASC just recently ruled that carrying a gun (open OR concealed), on it's own, is NOT enough to justify a stop/license request.
Does the ruling override the First Class requirement? Or is that mentioned in the ruling?
Maybe GunLawyer can chime in...