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Re: ??Pennsylvania Firearms Association INC???
Before I would send money to enable anyone to continue helping me, I'd first ask "what have you done to help me?"
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Does danp know about them?
(does he even remember us?)
Re: ??Pennsylvania Firearms Association INC???
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Originally Posted by
JustinHEMI
This is what a friend from Iowa sent me,
"I learned a lot working on the pro-gun cause in Iowa. Chris Dorr is from Iowa. His dad was a right wing religious fund raiser who burned gay library books and stuff for money. It started with Aaron who went to work with a nutty (genuinely nutty) tea party type state Senator. Aaron facilitated a bribe from Ron Paul’s campaign for an endorsement and ended up getting the state Senator prison time, Aaron somehow walked away without a scratch even though he testified to his involvement. Him and Chris’s then decided to get in the gun game. Chris actually stole the contact list and and data from the homeschool lobby (he acknowledged in an official statement from the investigation) and then they used it to start sending out ‘sky is falling’ type mailers to raise money. His brothers and him would go into the capitol and make angry outraged videos, demand money, and never actually talk to anyone or do anything. Outrage, ask for money, repeat. They were called out as a scam by Iowa legislators and Minnesota legislators. They setup home addresses at ups stores in each of these states, have relatives and a dead guy as officers and use their non profit status to claim zero compensation and divert almost all of the money to fundraising and printing/mailing expenses. Now, who does that go to? Midwest Freedom Enterprises LLC. They have the exact same mailing address as Iowa Gun Owners. Minnesota Gun Rights, Ohio Gun Owners, Iowa gun owners, etc all send the money back to the Dorrs
LLC in Des Moines and they’re making bank off scamming gun owners. They stir anger by bashing republicans and other gun groups to look more righteous, but they never do anything. The Minnesota legislators have Ben Dorr on audio tape secret recordings admitting to a ton of this."
Ive read that exact same post about 2 weeks ago on facebook word for word.
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Originally Posted by
icp4life162005
Ive read that exact same post about 2 weeks ago on facebook word for word.
Or here because I posted it here before.
Re: ??Pennsylvania Firearms Association INC???
This is from the arcom thread,
"Their MO has been the same for a long time. Their dad started it with school elections and issues and the sons have discovered 2A rights.
https://cleveland.com/open/2019/08/h...publicans.html
1) Go into a state with a functioning 2A group
2) Tell everyone the politicians are all anti gun and the other group is complicit
3) Work to kill all good legislation because it is never 'good enough'
4) Make some Facebook videos standing outside the statehouse
5) Go home and Fundraise because everyone but them are really anti-gun and have just been faking it in the past
6) Spend 90% of the money they take on more fundraising by sending it to Midwest Freedom Enterprises which is a family owned print and mail business so they don't have to report on their nonprofit form 990 that they are taking all the money themselves
7) lather, rinse, repeat
My personal opinion is they don't want any progress made because it is 'the fight' that keeps their pump primed."
We'll see how it plays out. Will be interesting to see if they attack FOAC.
Re: ??Pennsylvania Firearms Association INC???
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Originally Posted by
JustinHEMI
Or here because I posted it here before.
May have been, but i thought i had seen it in one of the form 1 suppressor building groups
Re: ??Pennsylvania Firearms Association INC???
Quote:
Originally Posted by
JustinHEMI
This is from the arcom thread,
"Their MO has been the same for a long time. Their dad started it with school elections and issues and the sons have discovered 2A rights.
https://cleveland.com/open/2019/08/h...publicans.html
1) Go into a state with a functioning 2A group
2) Tell everyone the politicians are all anti gun and the other group is complicit
3) Work to kill all good legislation because it is never 'good enough'
4) Make some Facebook videos standing outside the statehouse
5) Go home and Fundraise because everyone but them are really anti-gun and have just been faking it in the past
6) Spend 90% of the money they take on more fundraising by sending it to Midwest Freedom Enterprises which is a family owned print and mail business so they don't have to report on their nonprofit form 990 that they are taking all the money themselves
7) lather, rinse, repeat
My personal opinion is they don't want any progress made because it is 'the fight' that keeps their pump primed."
We'll see how it plays out. Will be interesting to see if they attack FOAC.
Or PAFOA, with the similarities..
Re: ??Pennsylvania Firearms Association INC???
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Originally Posted by
icp4life162005
May have been, but i thought i had seen it in one of the form 1 suppressor building groups
Well he sent it to me as a PM via facebook messenger, but I suppose it's possible he sent me something he already posted. I don't know if he's in any suppressor groups. In any case, if you see talk of the Dorrs elsewhere, please share here.
Re: ??Pennsylvania Firearms Association INC???
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Originally Posted by
JustinHEMI
Well he sent it to me as a PM via facebook messenger, but I suppose it's possible he sent me something he already posted. I don't know if he's in any suppressor groups. In any case, if you see talk of the Dorrs elsewhere, please share here.
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