Re: Traffic Stops While Carrying A Firearm Across Country (My Experiences)
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Originally Posted by
bravo30
first stop:
i got pulled over for speeding in Yellowstone. the ranger got me with his forward facing radar and made a u-turn to get behind me. i pulled into a gas station and rolled both front windows down and cut the van off while placing my hands on the wheel. the ranger came up on the drivers side and informed me that he pulled me over for doing 55 in a 30 and asked for my license/registration. i handed over my info along with both of our carry permits. the ranger asked if the guns were on us and if so where they were. i told him i was carrying a Glock 20, chambered at the 8 o'clock position in a OWB holster and my wife had a Bersa .380 in her purse, chambered, hammer down with safety off. the ranger then asked if it was a retention holster and informed me that he was going to open the door and wanted me to lean forward while he removed the gun from the holster. seemed a bit awkward to me but he was cool so i went along with it. next he had me pass my wifes purse over from the passenger seat where he grabbed it an removed the gun and returned the purse. at this point backup had arrived but didnt get involved. they just hung back by their cars.
the ranger spent a few mins looking up my info etc etc and when he returned he explained that i would be getting a ticket etc ($300 some dollars, ouch) . i asked if he was going to take the guns apart or anything and he said he would go over that with me at the end. fair enough. so, at the end he told me he was going to hand back our firearms and that the bullets would be left on the rear bumper and that we were free to go retrieve the ammo only AFTER THEY LEFT THE PARKING LOT. it was a crowded lot but is what is it. after they left the lot we went back an loaded our magazines and racked the slide right there in broad light. that was an odd experience as people by this time had begun to gather around the van. through out the entire time the ranger nor any of the back up asked us anything about the guns or if we had more etc etc.
There is a Youtube video posted by a law enforcement officer detailing why disarming (and in some cases disassembling the firearm) is a bad idea from a LEO's perspective. I'd be tempted to print out the address on a card and if you (generic you) encounters this, give them the card at the end of the encounter. Maybe it can cut down on this behavior without winding up arguing on the side of the road. I realize they may never even view the video, but it might help change their view if they do.
Re: Traffic Stops While Carrying A Firearm Across Country (My Experiences)
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Originally Posted by
t1066
There is a Youtube video posted by a law enforcement officer detailing why disarming (and in some cases disassembling the firearm) is a bad idea from a LEO's perspective. I'd be tempted to print out the address on a card and if you (generic you) encounters this, give them the card at the end of the encounter. Maybe it can cut down on this behavior without winding up arguing on the side of the road. I realize they may never even view the video, but it might help change their view if they do.
Link for YouTube?
Re: Traffic Stops While Carrying A Firearm Across Country (My Experiences)
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Originally Posted by
t1066
There is a Youtube video posted by a law enforcement officer detailing why disarming (and in some cases disassembling the firearm) is a bad idea from a LEO's perspective. I'd be tempted to print out the address on a card and if you (generic you) encounters this, give them the card at the end of the encounter. Maybe it can cut down on this behavior without winding up arguing on the side of the road. I realize they may never even view the video, but it might help change their view if they do.
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Originally Posted by
stainless
Link for YouTube?
I believe this is the video:
Mike The Cop: "Police Need to STOP Doing This to Concealed Carriers"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe0iqDpDKRo
Re: Traffic Stops While Carrying A Firearm Across Country (My Experiences)
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Originally Posted by
stainless
Link for YouTube?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe0iqDpDKRo
Re: Traffic Stops While Carrying A Firearm Across Country (My Experiences)
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Originally Posted by
ett
I believe this is the video:
Mike The Cop
Thanks. Rep nazi sez NO.
Re: Traffic Stops While Carrying A Firearm Across Country (My Experiences)
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Originally Posted by
t1066
There is a Youtube video posted by a law enforcement officer detailing why disarming (and in some cases disassembling the firearm) is a bad idea from a LEO's perspective. I'd be tempted to print out the address on a card and if you (generic you) encounters this, give them the card at the end of the encounter. Maybe it can cut down on this behavior without winding up arguing on the side of the road. I realize they may never even view the video, but it might help change their view if they do.
yeah it didnt feel right at all but, like i said, he was being cool about it so i didnt want to start something if i could avoid it. the one thing i noticed is that when he had my G20 out he was holding it by the grip with his thumb and index finger. that kind of freaked me out a bit but at that point it too late.
Re: Traffic Stops While Carrying A Firearm Across Country (My Experiences)
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Originally Posted by
alpacaheat
You need to stop speeding when carrying. :D
i though i was safe driving a 9,000 lb van that can only go 82mph. nope !
Re: Traffic Stops While Carrying A Firearm Across Country (My Experiences)
I stopped reading after the first cop raped you. Why people offer up info they don't need to is beyond me. The cop was cool though, except by disarming you, leaving your ammo on your bumper in a crowded parking lot, and giving you a $300 ticket on top of that. At least he didn't shoot you or fondle your wife though.
Re: Traffic Stops While Carrying A Firearm Across Country (My Experiences)
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Originally Posted by
steve_010
I stopped reading after the first cop raped you. Why people offer up info they don't need to is beyond me. The cop was cool though, except by disarming you, leaving your ammo on your bumper in a crowded parking lot, and giving you a $300 ticket on top of that. At least he didn't shoot you or fondle your wife though.
are you aware of all the variables i had to contend with prior to making my decision? of course your not that's why you dont understand why people do what they do. the way i look at it i got out of there with a ticket for speeding which i have zero problem with and i was able to continue my trip.
if that stop would have turned one percentage point to the left i could have gotten heavily fined for numerous vehicle code violations both inside and out and most likely detained for what i was transporting and thats not something i wanted to chance thousands of miles away from home living out of a van so i did what i felt would would get me out of there as quick as possible and that was by being completely honest and upfront with the guy. there was a whole lot of GREY AREA with my VAN that i apparently avoided by doing what i did and if you would have continued to read my post you would know that i do know when to keep my info to myself when need be.
Re: Traffic Stops While Carrying A Firearm Across Country (My Experiences)
I don't understand the window tint thing. My former agency had an issue with tinting- so I had to assign a light meter to an officer on day shift from time to time.
It was a chicken shit detail, but the assigned officer knew he could not stop or write out of state vehicles for tint violations.
How is it that an officer from Tn. can write an out of state veh. for tint, when the vehicles tint may be perfectly legal in the home state?
Same for inspection violations- enforcing another state's m.v. laws is not kosher.
I'm not talking about safety violations on an out of state rolling wreck, I'm talking ordinary equipment violations.
I can see your point about telling the officer you were armed but I maintain that unless it's required by law it's a bad idea.
